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I blushingly admit I quite enjoy Maxwell's Silver Hammer. Never been a fan of Octopus's Garden anyway.
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Oh I disagree with so much of this! That's the internet I suppose. I will ask one question though... concerning Hold Your Fire, how is it you don't like Turn The Page but like Tai Shan and High Water? The vast majority of Rush fans I've encountered have quite the opposite opinion!

I'm aware both "Tai Shan" and "High Water" are very much hated by both the band and the fanbase, but I've never had a major problem with either song. They are FAR from Rush's greatest moments, but to me they show the band actually trying something different, in this case, atmospheric mood pieces (even if "High Water" borrows the guitar riff from "Bacchus Plateau").

"Turn the Page", on the other hand, is an entire song written around that tricky bass pattern that opens the performance. Peart's lyrics have by this period become forced and self-regarding. Not only that, but this song is a virtual repeat of "Force Ten" from the same album!

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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Oh I disagree with so much of this! That's the internet I suppose. I will ask one question though... concerning Hold Your Fire, how is it you don't like Turn The Page but like Tai Shan and High Water? The vast majority of Rush fans I've encountered have quite the opposite opinion!

I'm aware both "Tai Shan" and "High Water" are very much hated by both the band and the fanbase, but I've never had a major problem with either song. They are FAR from Rush's greatest moments, but to me they show the band actually trying something different, in this case, atmospheric mood pieces (even if "High Water" borrows the guitar riff from "Bacchus Plateau").

"Turn the Page", on the other hand, is an entire song written around that tricky bass pattern that opens the performance. Peart's lyrics have by this period become forced and self-regarding. Not only that, but this song is a virtual repeat of "Force Ten" from the same album!
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Another that always annoyed me was Clap on the Yes lp...not a 'bad song' just didn't fit imho.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

The one that comes immediately to mind for me is Octopus' Garden on Abbey Road..it has always ruined the flow for me...and maybe even Maxwells Silver Hammer. I would have  liked another slightly more serious track.

I can stand Octopus' Garden, but one of Paul's numerous granny songs? No thanks, can't even stomach listening to it. 
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The one that comes immediately to mind for me is Octopus' Garden on Abbey Road..it has always ruined the flow for me...and maybe even Maxwells Silver Hammer. I would have  liked another slightly more serious track.
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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

These are the first I can think of:

The Police - Synchronicity: "Mother"
The Clash - Sandinista: "If Music Could Talk"
Sigur Rós - Ágætis byrjun: "Olsen Olsen"
Pink Floyd - Piper: "Take Up Thy Stethoscope And Walk"
Pink Floyd - Obscured By Clouds: "The Gold It's In the..."
Radiohead - The Bends: "Black Star"
The Beatles - The Beatles: "Obla di Obla da"
Genesis - Lamb: "The Colony of Slippermen"
The Who - By Numbers: "Squeeze Box"
The Who - Who Are You: "Had Enough"
Queen - A Day At the Races: "Drowse"



That's actually one of my favorite songs on that album. To me the only song even approaching being weak on that is My Iron Lung. I know most will disagree and it's all subjective, but yeah I like Black Star a lot.

Oo I love them both. For me the weakest link on The Bends is probably... Sulk, I guess? It's a really great record through and through. Not one I would ever think of for a thread like this.
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Originally posted by TheLionOfPrague TheLionOfPrague wrote:

GNR- Use Your Illusion 2 - My World . One of the worst songs ever.


Thanks to you I've just remembered that wretched abomination exists...*shudders*

You're very correct here.
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Let's see if I can come up with any answers of my own:

Rush - Hold Your Fire: High Water (I find Tai Shan tame and inoffensive)
Iron Maiden - Piece Of Mind: Quest For Fire
Genesis - Invisible Touch: The Brazilian
King Crimson - In The Wake Of Poseidon: The Devil's Triangle (I mean compared to all their other classic material... come on)
Pink Floyd - Meddle: Seamus
The Police - Zenyatta Mondatta: Behind My Camel
Yes - Fragile - 5 per cent for nothing
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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

I think it's a bit rich to knock an album over one supposedly bad song. For instance SEBTP if you don't like More Fool Me. It's over 50 minutes of music. Take it out then. Problem solved. It's still a 10/10 album.

More Fool Me would be easy enough to skip if it was the problem track. However The Battle Of Epping Forest has always stuck me as the real missing of the mark on that record, and really in the entire classic Genesis run.
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Originally posted by Steve Wyzard Steve Wyzard wrote:

I'm talking only about albums that would be nearly flawless were it not for one bad song. Let's exclude albums with major issues throughout. I'm limiting myself to only albums that are found on this site, and I'm not including "bonus tracks" or "alternate takes" that appear on re-issues. Here's my list:

Rush: Moving Pictures - Offending song = "Witch Hunt"
Rush: Hold your Fire - Offending song = "Turn the Page"
Steve Hackett: Spectral Mornings - Offending song = "The Ballad of the Decomposing Man"
Steve Hackett: To Watch the Storms - Offending song = "The Devil is an Englishman"
Supertramp: Even in the Quietest Moments - Offending song = "Babaji"
Manfred Mann's Earth Band: Angel Station - Offending song - "Resurrection"
Pink Floyd: The Division Bell - Offending song = "Lost for Words"
ELP: Brain Salad Surgery - Offending song = "Benny the Bouncer"
Barclay James Harvest: Ring of Changes - Offending song = "Just a Day Away"
Barclay James Harvest: Welcome to the Show - Offending song = "Psychedelic Child"
Marillion: Seasons End - Offending song = "After Me"
Led Zeppelin: In Through the Out Door - Offending song = "Hot Dog"
Queen: News of the World - Offending song = "Get Down Make Love"
Saga: The Security of Illusion - Offending song = "Alone Again Tonight"
Saga: Wildest Dreams - Offending song = "Don't Put Out the Fire"
Genesis: The Lamb lies down on Broadway - Offending song = "The Waiting Room"
Asia: Phoenix - Offending song = "I Will Remember You"

So what are yours?  

Oh I disagree with so much of this! That's the internet I suppose. I will ask one question though... concerning Hold Your Fire, how is it you don't like Turn The Page but like Tai Shan and High Water? The vast majority of Rush fans I've encountered have quite the opposite opinion!
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I think it's a bit rich to knock an album over one supposedly bad song. For instance SEBTP if you don't like More Fool Me. It's over 50 minutes of music. Take it out then. Problem solved. It's still a 10/10 album.
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Going for the One - Parallels

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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Ok, this is quite tricky...


VDGG - Pawn Hearts (A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers)

A few controversial choices there I imagine..

I'm mildly confused. Partly how APOLK could be someone's least favorite from that album (though that's entirely subjective I admit), but moreso how one can say Pawn Hearts is a good album and simultaneously call half of it bad.
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Supertramp - Even In The Quietest Moments... - Give A Little Bit
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Tarkus - Jeremy Bender
Genesis - ...And Then There Were Three... - Follow You Follow Me
Gentle Giant - Octopus - Knots
Angra - Holy Land - Lullaby For Lucifer
The Pineapple Thief - Your Widerness - Dawn Again
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The Beatles - White Album "Obla di Obla da" hate with passion that song, totally out of place

I have to admit I really don't get all the hate I've been hearing lately for Obla Di Obla Da. No, it's not one of the Beatles best songs but I don't think it ruins the album and I don't think it's the weakest track on the white album either. As for out of place I would think that would be "revolution 9."
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I'm getting old, and only sit here thinking of all your selected tunes I disagree with you about - and not remembering anything I dislike. But maybe, just maybe ending their concept album "Dimension Hatröss" with a cover of "The Batman Theme" wasn't Voivod's best ever idea. And ok, "Twisted" (another goofy, "fun" cover) at the end of Joni's "Court and Spark" is no highlight imo. But I'm sure it's great for people who are in to that kind of stuff.
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The Beatles - White Album "Obla di Obla da" hate with passion that song, totally out of place
Dream Theater - Images & words: "Surrounded"
Dream Theater - Awake: "Lie"
Rush - Signals: "Digital Man"
Radiohead - Ok Computer: "Fitter Happier"
Genesis - SEBTP: "Battle Of Epping Forest"
Frank Zappa - Hot Rats: "Willy The Pimp"
Bjork - Homogenic: "Pluto"
King Crimson - ITCOCK: "Moonchild"
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:


Breathless - Rainbows End

I'd pick Down On The Farm myself, I quite like Rainbow's End.
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Going for the One - Parallels
Breathless - Rainbows End
The Light - The Water
Chic Coreas Return to Forever - What Game Shall We Play Today?
Masque - It Takes a Woman’s Love
Virus - Canary Yellow
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