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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2018 at 02:37
^The Sweet was one of the major glam-rock bands from a movement to which also belonged: Middle of the Road, Slade, Gary Glitter, Suzi Quatro, Mud, David Cassidy etc. etc. I was 11, 12, 13 in those days, so these bands were a stepping stone on my way to prog. I might classify some of these as bubblegum, but not The Sweet's later output.
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Who are van Hagar? A Scandinavian van Halen tribute band?

no, this is how some people named the Sammy Hagar years with Van Halen. Obviously "Van Hagar" is meant to be a derogatory term. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote M27Barney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2018 at 02:29
Thought the sweet were glam-rock?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2018 at 00:03
Nothing to do with prog, but the Sweet is called bubblegum and I think many are thinking them to be absolutely rubbish band. Really recommend all seventies heavy music fans to listen their Sweet Fanny Adams-album, itīs in my ten best seventies heavy albums list.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote M27Barney Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2018 at 22:12
Aye 90125 is awful. I'd rather eat a dogsh*t sarnie than listen to that again. But Yes did some rather better stuff later on. So I will leave them out of the prog sell out set!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2018 at 20:28
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

It's a bit of an oxymoron in my opinion. Sure, there is some cheesy sounding prog but I don't think I would call any of it "bubblegum."


"Owner of a Lonely Heart."  

At the 40th Anniversary concert in Chicago, there were many families including parents and their young "tween" daughters.  

When OOALH was played, said tweens gave out a collective squeal of delight = the definition of bubblegum.  

Howe, on the other hand, looked like he had just eaten a rabbit poo sandwich as soon as he started to play that song.  (Tip o' the hat to Lazland for the "rabbit poo" analogy). 
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It's a bit of an oxymoron in my opinion. Sure, there is some cheesy sounding prog but I don't think I would call any of it "bubblegum."

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2018 at 15:14
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

"Owner of a Lonely Heart" comes to mind immediately.  


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"Owner of a Lonely Heart" comes to mind immediately.  
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Bubblegum just means music for morons in my interpretation. Something that isn't really listened to just mindlessly chewed upon....Thus bubblegum....

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80's Rush wasn't influenced by The Monkees or The Osmonds, but by The Police and The Fixx.

And to call The Police or The Fixx bubblegum or garbage is beyond me.
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Who are van Hagar? A Scandinavian van Halen tribute band?
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The Sweet is labled as the quitisential bubbelgum band
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Perhaps it's just me. But signals hasn't got a single track on it that I would wish to hear again. It's absolute garbage. From moving pictures to signals is possibly the biggest drop in quality over one release in the history of music. Signals is awful. Period. Moving pictures is not as good as it's predecessors but it's not a heaving pile of electro pop rubbish. Or is my memory of it mistaken?
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

My point on Genesis and Rush is that from producing a lot of the cream betwixt 1970 and 1977 (genesis) and 1975 and 1980 (rush) they suddenly produced an inferior synth pop product to attempt to line their pockets with filthy lucre. Very sad indeed. I suppose my standpoint will probably polarize opinion. It's an old chestnut. I know, but I still can't get over the demise of two pivotal prog outfits.

As far as Rush is concerned, they should have written Moving Pictures 2 instead of Signals if they wanted to line their pockets. They could have done that. They chose not to. You can say a lot of things about Rush's 80s output but "cash grab" is not one of them. Yeah, the albums did well but if they truly wanted to cash in, they could have gone the Journey/Foreigner/Van Hagar route. They didn't do that.  
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My point on Genesis and Rush is that from producing a lot of the cream betwixt 1970 and 1977 (genesis) and 1975 and 1980 (rush) they suddenly produced an inferior synth pop product to attempt to line their pockets with filthy lucre. Very sad indeed. I suppose my standpoint will probably polarize opinion. It's an old chestnut. I know, but I still can't get over the demise of two pivotal prog outfits.
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It's quite alright. I totally get your feeling of frustration towards people bashing artists just for the sake of it but I don't think this thread here is guilty of this. Though I have to admit I have no clue about this "bubblegum" notion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kingsnake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2018 at 11:55
Originally posted by Larkstongue41 Larkstongue41 wrote:

^ Negative thread? I don't sense a single ounce of negativity in the OP. The only negativity emanating from this thread comes from you, sir.

You are right.
That's why I shouldn't be on forums in the first place. I always do that.
But it's some sort of addiction, I guess.

Also I turned in my sense of humor a long time ago.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jeffro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2018 at 11:37
Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

It would have been neat back in the days of going underneath school desks and among all the gum deposits and dried up boogers I'd find prog.

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