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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2012 at 13:55
Best Buy has a bunch of the re-releases for $9.99; though the Sleep Dirt one is $13.99. My local shop has it for a whopping $12.99 hah.
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Points: 26138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2012 at 13:48
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Has anyone looked at the list of the re-released Zappa albums? 


This one intrigues me:

Sleep Dirt

Analog transfer by Joe Travers 2012. Re-mastered by Bob Ludwig, Gateway Mastering 2012. Now without vocals and drum overdubs!

Huh, cool.  I guess they're returning it to its original vinyl mix.  A lot of fans didn't like the versions with Thana Harris's vocals.  I thought they gave the album some variety.  I believe the non-vocal mixes are similar or identical to the ones used for Lather.  I wasn't aware of the drum overdubs though.  I might want to repurchase this one too, eventually!
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Has anyone looked at the list of the re-released Zappa albums? 


This one intrigues me:

Sleep Dirt

Analog transfer by Joe Travers 2012. Re-mastered by Bob Ludwig, Gateway Mastering 2012. Now without vocals and drum overdubs!
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Points: 26138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2012 at 08:22
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Hate to say this, but despite his great image as a "merciless critic of the right", Frank Zappa  was a card carrying, dues paying member of the NRA. Oh, well, nobody is perfect. He still had a unique invective.
If true, that really surprises me -- but not because of the issues the NRA supports, but rather because Zappa was suspicious of large organizations in general.  It doesn't surprise me that Zappa would be in favor of gun ownership rights - it just surprises me he would join a group dedicated to that purpose.
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Points: 1199 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2012 at 15:38
Apart from the fact that I doubt this is true (a Google search only brings up some Grand Funk guy who claims a song of theirs changed Zappa's mind on guns - rather dubious), I don't see how one negates the other.
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Hate to say this, but despite his great image as a "merciless critic of the right", Frank Zappa  was a card carrying, dues paying member of the NRA. Oh, well, nobody is perfect. He still had a unique invective.


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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-31/frank-zappa-trademark-no-longer-valid-in-germany-court-rules.html

Good news for Zappanale, an annual Zappa festival held in Germany every summer.  Gail Zappa's been fighting with them over the use of Frank's name.
 
This is one example of Gail and Dweezil being silly, when they should be there and selling their product and take home a nice bundle! And learn something about art and music in Europe that Dweezil has no idea about, and will never do or be able to appreciate, other than his garage rock mentality!
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I guess if you love Jazz-Fusion, you should listen to Hot Rats first, then Grand Wazoo. But if you want music that is really defining him and his lyrics, you should check Joe's Garage, Over-Nite-Sensation and Apostrophe ('). I am like you. I am discovering his music right now.
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Want to Revive this topic, as many people (I was one of them, so I should know) don't know where to start when it comes to Zappa. It all depends on what you like. Jazz: Hot Rats/Grand Wazoo. Comedy Rock: Apostrophe. Satire: Joe's Garage/We're Only in it For the Money. Psychedelia: Absolutely Free. Though, if I had one album to say defined him, it would probably be Joe's Garage.
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I would check out Zappa in this ordre:
Sheik Yerbouti 1979 Easy to get into, but still covers a relative broad spectrum of Zappa styles
In this direction : Joes garage,
Apostrophe (') 1974  My favorite, mid 70's Jazzy, but still with the funny lyrics
In this direction : Overnite S.
We're Only In It For The Money 1968 The best of the classics, extreemly funny both music and lyrics
In this direction : Absolutely free
In this direction : Hot Rats, Sleep Dirt
 
When you are past the 4 bacis steps : 
Studio Tan Totaly way out there, crazy yet extreeme complex.
Civilization Phaze III 1994 Zappa as the modern composer, great album
Orchestral Favorites 1979 again, Zappa as the modern composer, but very diffrent from the first one
 
Now you got the full overwiev, and you can sit back and enjoy the dessert:
 
Besides that, Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar (The Box Set) is a must have, if you like "the guitar" side of FZ.
 

 
 

 
 

 


 


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...well, ...um,he has a daughter?
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-31/frank-zappa-trademark-no-longer-valid-in-germany-court-rules.html

Good news for Zappanale, an annual Zappa festival held in Germany every summer.  Gail Zappa's been fighting with them over the use of Frank's name.
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Points: 18064 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2012 at 13:57
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Here's Frank's memorable appearance on the Steve Allen Show, 1963.  Still clean shaven at this point, and still fancying himself a composer as opposed to a rock musician.  And still as funny as ever.


 
Steve Allen is such a dick
 
Funny thing is/was that PDQ Bach was already doing this on stage with much funnier music. Quite different than Frank's really, but sometimes much more enjoyable! Unffortunately this site is not funny enough to appreciate the progressiveness of someone like PDQ Bach and his humor.


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Points: 18064 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2012 at 13:56
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

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All very much like theater to me. He got pegged for a while to actually be the person promoting porno sex through lyrics.
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Which early radio loved to chase as obscenity and try to steal money from the hip'r radio stations ... to make sure they did not succeed.
 
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

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His sacastic humour regarding sex in society was played out with individual characters. Underneath it all, (and on many albums), there was a message to not be a zombie and follow society's rules or overall indulgence into something that felt normal but in the real world was unhealthy and quite abnormal.
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Two things here. The conventional and literary styles do not like profanity or things that suggest some kind of un-savory this or that. In general, anyone using words frivolously like that will get ... some kind of trouble. They did the same thing 50 or 60 years ago with Jean Genet and many others.
 
This has become less of an issue in 2000 with all the rap and stuff out there that uses these words much faster and much stronger than Frank ever did. But somehow it is ok for a black to say it, but not a white ... he would have loved that one today and would have speared it mercilessly, I bet!
 
The zombie part is important. In general, when you have a top ten, and this board is a "slight" (not total - ever) example, the majority of folks and opinions all sign on each other first before listening or purchasing, and the ones that are different are always considered "politically incorrect" by some, and ... something else by others.
 
The point is ... that if you can only appreciate what someone else does, you can not make up your own mind ... and by the time you do? ... you're now not a part of the band, or this group, or no one likes you!
 
It's a tough choice either way you look at it.
 
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

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This mission of expression turned up on "Were Only In It for the Money", where he is feverishly promoting the idea that hippie ways are are quite brainwashing.
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Just as the ROTC was on all campuses and the advertising for the USARMY and NAVY .... at a time when all your friends, or children would end up going to VietNam! The hippy thing was a disaster right after the flowers in yor hair thing ... why? it brought to California the largest number of morons and idiots and stoneys you ever saw ... and these folks were the ones that took the honesty out of it all.
 
So, in terms of brainwashing, flowers in your hair is no different than a crew cut! But some folks got indignant because he said that ....
 
Is it any different today?
 
Nope!


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Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Here's Frank's memorable appearance on the Steve Allen Show, 1963.  Still clean shaven at this point, and still fancying himself a composer as opposed to a rock musician.  And still as funny as ever.


 
Steve Allen is such a dick
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FREAK OUT! and Waka/Jawaka are my favorites
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