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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 07 2013 at 02:16 |
Catcher10 wrote:
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Anyone have a favorite era
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No.......all of them, how dare you ask!
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I can ask whom ever I want
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 07 2013 at 02:08 |
Horizons wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
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Vapor Trails is lacking progressiveness just as much as any album after it. Rush, since 2002, have been in the same vein as bands like Muse.
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I've always thought of VT as a full-blown prog album; sure, it's not "progressive" on a grand epic scale like Hemispheres, but it's easily Rush's most complex album ever, complete with layers upon layers of instruments and vocals and tricky time changes you don't even know are there until you actually try to count them.
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I'm sorry but VP being their most complex album is just silliness. The drums alone is a clear, distinct sign of a lesser technicality on the album. |
listen to Alex's guitar tone on "Freeze" it's insane I love it
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Apollo2112
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Posted: January 05 2013 at 18:03 |
verslibre wrote:
ProgressiveMike wrote:
Follow up post to when I talked poorly of Vapor Trails. I spun it today in the store and really enjoyed it. Now, I spun it after having to listen to Astronautilis and Tool, and next to that I might even think that Carly Rae Jepsen's Kiss was a masterpiece. But I really enjoyed it. Looking forward to never having Vapor Trails listed as my least favorite Rush album again. Rush is somewhat infaliable to me though lol. |
For me, VT is a stunner from beginning to end. Yes, its levels are in the red but the songwriting's awesome, Neil's lyrics kill, and the whole album is a real kick in the sack! |
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Vapor Trails is a great album! Way underrated... people get all tied up in the sound quality and don't listen to the kick-butt songs!
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verslibre
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Posted: January 03 2013 at 22:42 |
ProgressiveMike wrote:
Follow up post to when I talked poorly of Vapor Trails. I spun it today in the store and really enjoyed it. Now, I spun it after having to listen to Astronautilis and Tool, and next to that I might even think that Carly Rae Jepsen's Kiss was a masterpiece. But I really enjoyed it. Looking forward to never having Vapor Trails listed as my least favorite Rush album again. Rush is somewhat infaliable to me though lol. |
For me, VT is a stunner from beginning to end. Yes, its levels are in the red but the songwriting's awesome, Neil's lyrics kill, and the whole album is a real kick in the sack!
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:31 |
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:29 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
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How did Caress of Steel go this time?
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Loved it. How about HYF?
Also, have you heard the new Echolyn? It's on Bandcamp.
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Even better than the last time . You know you have a great album on your hands when it makes you think deep thoughts while you're listening.
I have listened to Echolyn's newest; I should probably give it another spin sometime in the near future. It was very good, although I wish they would have included a larger dose of the heavy material contained in the first track.
What do you think about Tai Shan, by the way?
| Oh I used to hate it. Now I find it a peaceful reprieve.
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:26 |
Epignosis wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
How did Caress of Steel go this time?
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Loved it. How about HYF?
Also, have you heard the new Echolyn? It's on Bandcamp.
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Even better than the last time . You know you have a great album on your hands when it makes you think deep thoughts while you're listening. I have listened to Echolyn's newest; I should probably give it another spin sometime in the near future. It was very good, although I wish they would have included a larger dose of the heavy material contained in the first track. What do you think about Tai Shan, by the way?
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:19 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
How did Caress of Steel go this time?
| Loved it. How about HYF?
Also, have you heard the new Echolyn? It's on Bandcamp.
Edited by Epignosis - December 29 2012 at 23:19
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:18 |
How did Caress of Steel go this time?
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:16 |
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^But even when you're gray, you'll still be gray your way
| Nope. I'm married. I'll be gray her way!
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 23:13 |
^But even when you're gray, you'll still be gray your way
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:54 |
I THINK I'M GOING BALD GRAY
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:49 |
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:43 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
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And in honor of that, AH, if you name a Rush album I have to listen to right now (as I write my novel), I will name one you have to listen to right now. Deal?
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Sure why not.
Err...Caress of Steel
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For you: Hold Your Fire. Hated it as a teen. Love it now.
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:41 |
Epignosis wrote:
And in honor of that, AH, if you name a Rush album I have to listen to right now (as I write my novel), I will name one you have to listen to right now. Deal?
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Sure why not. Err...Caress of Steel
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:39 |
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:36 |
And in honor of that, AH, if you name a Rush album I have to listen to right now (as I write my novel), I will name one you have to listen to right now. Deal?
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:34 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
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Counterparts - T4E: Alternative rock
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Ho ho! No.
Tons of progressive rock in those albums! Underrated as hell too.
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I consider them "progressive" in the literal sense, but not "progressive rock."
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Then your definition of progressive rock is silly.
To not be glib here:
Take away "The Camera Eye," and Moving Pictures is a shorter version of Counterparts.
Take away "Natural Science," and Permanent Waves is a shorter version of Test for Echo.
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Maybe I need to go and listen to Counterparts and T4E some more!
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:28 |
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: December 29 2012 at 21:26 |
Horizons wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Horizons wrote:
Vapor Trails is lacking progressiveness just as much as any album after it. Rush, since 2002, have been in the same vein as bands like Muse.
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I've always thought of VT as a full-blown prog album; sure, it's not "progressive" on a grand epic scale like Hemispheres, but it's easily Rush's most complex album ever, complete with layers upon layers of instruments and vocals and tricky time changes you don't even know are there until you actually try to count them.
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I'm sorry but VP being their most complex album is just silliness. The drums alone is a clear, distinct sign of a lesser technicality on the album. |
I said "complex," not "technical," but I'm sure you know what you're talking about concerning the drums, as you're a drummer and I'm not and couldn't begin to understand everything that's going on drum-wise in a Rush album. We're probably operating off two different definitions of "complex." I think that Rush's classic albums are more complex "horizontally" while VT is more complex "vertically;" I think of the former as very complex in rhythm, arrangement, in the way the songs unfold in an epic fashion, etc, while I think of the latter as more complex harmonically and melodically.
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