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giselle
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 11:47 |
Yes to that, sort of.
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Alitare
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 11:40 |
I'll take my Yes, thank you. ELP just didn't know a good melody from a hole in the ground. Yes knew a good melody froma hole in the ground some of the tiiiime.
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esky
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Posted: May 17 2011 at 11:06 |
ELP knew when to throw in the towel while we are still beleaguered by the many versions of Yes assaulting us on a nearly every-two-year cycle (especially enjoyable though was 2001's Wakeman-less edition promoting Magnification - even Jon Anderson had the cajones to tell the audience at the Hollywood Bowl that the band hadn't performed with each other for quite some time, but they carried on regardless and played a great show riddled with key tunes from their catalog).
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resurrection
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 01:42 |
Yes for me. More range and colour than ELP. Would be interesting to compare Emerson and Wakeman though.
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TheLastBaron
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 00:25 |
I love both bands. Brain Salad Surgery, Trakus, Trilogy and self titled are all steller ElP albums. The Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the Edge, Relayer are all great, I haven't listed to tales in its entirety yet. I would say that overall I like Yes more but I really enjoy both bands for different reasons. I will say that I prefer Bruford over Palmer though.
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brainstormer
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Posted: April 23 2011 at 06:47 |
Yeah, I wouldn't want to make a comparison. Both have given me an incredible amount of edification.
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jean-marie
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Posted: April 23 2011 at 05:49 |
giselle wrote:
Unfair to compare. Two bands from the same early stages of the genre, both with something to offer that was different from each other, both outstanding in their field. I personally couldn't choose between them in terms of who's best, it's like asking which of your children you prefer. | yes! i feel always the same as you through these various polls, it's like the question about the island, kind of choose 10 albums you would bring with you on an island, why would i go with 10 records,on an island ( where, probably, ther's no electricity)
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giselle
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Posted: April 23 2011 at 05:32 |
Unfair to compare. Two bands from the same early stages of the genre, both with something to offer that was different from each other, both outstanding in their field. I personally couldn't choose between them in terms of who's best, it's like asking which of your children you prefer.
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richardh
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Posted: April 21 2011 at 01:38 |
Thought I would look at the ratings of the albums on this site.
The results:
1. Yes - Close To The Edge 4.63
2. Yes - Fragile 4.39
3. Yes - Relayer 4.32
4. Yes - Yessongs 4.27
5. Yes - The Yes Album 4.23
6. ELP - Emerson,Lake and Palmer 4.20
7. ELP - Welcome Back My Friends... 4.12
8. ELP - Brain Salad Surgery 4.09
9. Yes - Keys To Ascension 4.06
10.Yes - Going For The One 4.04
11.ELP - Trilogy 4.03
12 ELP - Tarkus 3.99
13 Yes - Keys To Ascension 2 3.93
14.Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans 3.86
15.ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition 3.83
16.Yes - Magnification 3.82
17.Yes - Drama 3.75
18 Yes - Keystudio 3.59
19.Yes - The Ladder 3.36
20.ELP - Emerson,Lake and Powell 3.23
21.Yes - Time and A Word 3.20
22.Yes - Yes 3.17
23 Yes - Talk 3.07
after that there is nothing with a reasonable number of ratings that gets over 3.
Yes have 16 albums with decent ratings compared to 7 by ELP. Yes have the top 6 although ELP have the next 3 spots.Certainly demsonstrates Yes superiority over ELP over their entire careers. Yes best albums beat ELP's best albums. Yes second best albums beat (well slaughter) ELP second best albums.
The ratings for ELP albums fall off the end of a cliff after 1974 with only Emerson.Lake and Powell achieving over 3. Presumably the line up change helped refresh ELP ,something Yes did on a regular basis.
As an ELP fan I'm not too suprised at any of this. ELP were always likely to be shortlived. 3 peice bands are usually volatile with too much of the creative input usually having to come from just one or two people. Rush have managed to buck the trend somewhat thanks to the amazing Neil Peart. Carl Palmer (bless him) was just a drummer. When Emerson ran out of inspiration and ideas ELP died.
Edited by richardh - April 21 2011 at 01:42
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jean-marie
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Posted: April 20 2011 at 15:40 |
I love both bands but there so much differences between , can't vote need Tarkus and Trilogy as weel as Fragile and CTTE
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richardh
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Posted: April 20 2011 at 14:25 |
akaBona wrote:
richardh wrote:
akaBona wrote:
YES.
Average Yes material beats top ELP material easily. ELP has nothing equal if you think timeline from Yes Album to Going For The One. And still there are lots of Yes albums after that which are much much better than any ELP effort, Union and Magnification just to name few.
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What do you class as 'average Yes material'?
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Average Yes is something like Union, Tormato, Talk, Open Your Eyes, 90125 and Ladder.
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no way do those albums beat the best ELP albums unless you have your Yes tinted glasses on.
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kawkaw123
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Posted: April 20 2011 at 07:45 |
YES. ELP just wanted to show off.
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TheLionOfPrague
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Posted: April 19 2011 at 17:09 |
ELP.
From ELP to BSSS is awesome.
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I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place
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akaBona
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Posted: April 19 2011 at 16:30 |
richardh wrote:
akaBona wrote:
YES.
Average Yes material beats top ELP material easily. ELP has nothing equal if you think timeline from Yes Album to Going For The One. And still there are lots of Yes albums after that which are much much better than any ELP effort, Union and Magnification just to name few.
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What do you class as 'average Yes material'?
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Average Yes is something like Union, Tormato, Talk, Open Your Eyes, 90125 and Ladder. Below average is Drama and Big Generator. I don't even own these albums. First 2 albums are very dear to me, but I usually count The Yes Album the first real Yes music. Last one ie. Magnification is terrific piece of Yes music.
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twosteves
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Posted: April 19 2011 at 15:15 |
Easy--YES---ELP were always hit or miss for me ---too pompous---dated---not timeless---plus--no HOWE.
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silverpot
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Posted: April 19 2011 at 14:33 |
ELP. I've never been much of a Yes fan actually, mainly because of Jon Anderson's voice. It gets on my nerves.
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Progosopher
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Posted: April 19 2011 at 14:28 |
Heathcliffe wrote:
YES - but I also like ELP. had they become a combined band they would have been awesome.
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Could we call them Yep? That would still mean yes. Or Yelp? Doesn't sound so good. Or Es? I kinda like that one.
As to my vote: Yes, Yes, a thousand times Yes. And yes, I do like ELP.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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richardh
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Posted: April 19 2011 at 14:18 |
akaBona wrote:
YES.
Average Yes material beats top ELP material easily. ELP has nothing equal if you think timeline from Yes Album to Going For The One. And still there are lots of Yes albums after that which are much much better than any ELP effort, Union and Magnification just to name few.
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What do you class as 'average Yes material'?
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Philius Maximus
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Posted: April 19 2011 at 12:36 |
Good question! It's funny, when I was in my teens, ELP were my absolute favourite and Yes were just ok with me, but these days I'm much more likely to be listening to Yes. I think it's because nowadays (generally speaking) ELP sound a bit soulless by comparison. I do still love the Trilogy album and Tarkus has it's moments. Unfortunately they've also made some HORRIBLE records - Love Beach, Works Vol2 anybody? So....Yes for me!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 19 2011 at 12:18 |
Emerson Lake and Palmer
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