The Doors vs. Deep Purple

Wow, I didn't see that one coming. I respect The Doors, but I was never a big fan of their music, particularly Morrison's lyrics. Also, Purple's music is much more complex and rich, and they were all better musicians than the Doors.

Logan wrote: Snow Dog wrote: ^ I skip the entire film. If I read you correctly, our tastes really are different.  When I was a kid that movie had a profound effect on me.  Along with Das Boot, it may be about my favourite war film.  When I saw the A.N. Redux version in the cinema, I was rather bored though

^ I skip the entire film.

The Doors, my favorite from the 60's I guess . Like Deep Purple too of course.

The Doors. I wish that I could have seen them live. 

Gandalff wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Gandalff wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Gandalff wrote: Deep Purple is complete band. The Doors always lacked any bassist (and 40 years actually their frontman too). They recorded the albums with guest bassists, I would have expected you knew that.  Guest bassists! How ridiculous! It doesn't matter if that's "ridiculous" or not; it's bass guitar you're hearing on their albums, so you'll have to correct your initial statement. Well. Guest musician isn´t full-value musician, otherwise he would be listed in band´s line-up, isn´t he? Thus The Doors was actually without bassist. That´s a fact.

So? Does that make Doors' music without bass guitar? NO.

And all the bassist they worked with are specified.

harmonium.ro wrote: Gandalff wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Gandalff wrote: Deep Purple is complete band. The Doors always lacked any bassist (and 40 years actually their frontman too). They recorded the albums with guest bassists, I would have expected you knew that.  Guest bassists! How ridiculous! It doesn't matter if that's "ridiculous" or not; it's bass guitar you're hearing on their albums, so you'll have to correct your initial statement.

Well. Guest musician isn´t full-value musician, otherwise he would be listed in band´s line-up, isn´t he? Thus The Doors was actually without bassist. That´s a fact.

Gandalff wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Gandalff wrote: Deep Purple is complete band. The Doors always lacked any bassist (and 40 years actually their frontman too). They recorded the albums with guest bassists, I would have expected you knew that.  Guest bassists! How ridiculous!

It doesn't matter if that's "ridiculous" or not; it's bass guitar you're hearing on their albums, so you'll have to correct your initial statement.

richardh wrote: BaldFriede wrote: richardh wrote: One band that has me scurrying to the off switch on the radio is The Doors. Them and Iggy Pop.   Deep Purple get my vote although anything (other than Iggy Pop) versus The Doors would get my vote. Well, I knew our tastes are different, but switching off whenever the Doors appear on the radio? They made some truly brilliant songs, and I actually like their short ones too, not only those that have prog length. Your taste really is weird.   I suspect the opposite is true and that my taste is rather boring and safe. Never really got The Doors and part of the problem is that there are only about 4 songs of theirs that I'm familiar with: Light My Fire Riders On The Storm City At Night People Are Strange   Light My Fire is okay I admit. I probably would keep the radio on for that one. Riders gets loads of praise yet Morrison's voice just sounds 'shot' to me and most of the song is Manzarek tinkling away on a piano and the sound of rain in the background.   City At Night gets load of play on Planet Rock but I find it just very dull. People Are Strange - well that sums me up I guess    I just find The Doors very underwelming in general and because I only ever hear the same 4 songs on the radio ,makes me wonder why that are considered to be so great in the grand scheme of things.

That "tinkling" has been called one of the best e-piano solos ever by many people who know what they are talking about! And there is a lot of fine guitar and drum work on that song too; Robbie Krieger and John Densmore are very underestimasted as musicxians. Densmore is an excellent drummer with very original ideas,and krieger's scales are surprisingly jazzy for that time., not only in "Eiders On the Storm".
And you never heard "When the Music's Over" or "The End"? Well, here is you chance for that:



But I am almost certain that these two songs won't change your view of the Doors at all, because you look for something else in music which the Doors don't give you, like beautiful melodies and harmonies. You may be surprised, but I love beautiful melodies and harmonies too, though I rarely speak about that (with exceptions, like when I praise Peter Hammill's opera "The Fall of the House of Usher").

But always beauty and nothing but beauty is extremely boring, in my opinion; I seek the wild, the disharmonic, the ugly too, and you don't. Hence for example your disapproval of jazz, where wild and disharmonic is quite usual. And the Doors in these two songs are extremely jazzy for their time; Densmore's drumming is definitely the drumming of a jazz drummer in these two tracks, and so are the scales of Manzarek and Krieger, especially Krieger.

My love of the disharmonic definitely comes from how I grew up with music; I was confronted with both harmony and disharmony at the same time. Krautrock and Symphonic Prog both were on the turntable of my brother, as well as jazz-rock and jazz. And classical music too, though that a bit later, when I was six or seven already. Indian ragas were mixed in too, and had African or Arabian music been easier available at that time I am certain my brother would have listened to that too, and I with him, of course.

No contest whatsoever, Doors all the way. Jim Morrison is one of the most important people in rock history, and he didn't write smoke on the water.