Proggin' in communism: Prog in ex-Yugoslavia |
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Weirdamigo
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Posted: August 28 2010 at 07:45 | |||||
Not that I know of.... although very possible, "Pekara" means bakery in most slavic languages so it probably derived from it
Definitely interesting ... but Korea is somewhat far away from former Yugoslavia isn't it? Edited by Weirdamigo - August 28 2010 at 07:45 |
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Paravion
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 17:34 | |||||
North Korean prog played by children
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 16:49 | |||||
I thought bread was "peka" in croatian language...
by the way Marija, from their second record is simply superb!!
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Weirdamigo
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 15:51 | |||||
nema na cemu
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snobb
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 14:21 | |||||
^ Hvala!
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Weirdamigo
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 13:56 | |||||
Leb i Sol
(Bread and salt) Founded: 1976 Country:
Macedonia Genre: Rock,
Jazz Rock, Ethno-Jazz, Progressive Rock Years active:
1976 – 1995, 2006 – Present Current
members: Mico Bozikov Bodan Arsovski
Nikola Kokan
Dimusevski Mihail Parusev Former
Members: Vlatko
Stefanovski Kiril
Dzajkovski Dragoljub
Duricic Dimitrie
Cucurovski Garabet
Tavitjan Srdan Dunkic Discography
(Studio Albums): Leb i sol (1978) Leb i sol 2 (1978) Ručni rad (1979) Beskonačno (1981) Sledovanje (1982) Kalabalak (1983) Tangenta (1984) Zvučni zid (1986) Kao kakao (1987) Putujemo (1989) Note: There
are many fine reviews about this jewel of Yugoslavian prog more so than usual.
Thanks go to the usual suspects Seyo and clarke2001, to my helpful visitors
Finnforest, snobb and Andrea Cortese, and to those who I did not mention here. Silly little
fact: there are some differences how the band is pronounced in countries of
ex-Yugoslavia. In Serbia you would say “Hleb” instead of Leb and in Croatia
they use the word “Kruh” for bread. The languages might be similar but never
quite the same. Foundation: Leb i Sol was
founded 1976 by legendary guitarist (and vocalist) Vlatko Stefanovski, bass
guitarist Bodan Arsovski, Keyboardist Nikola Kokan Dimusevski and drummer
Garabet Tavitjan The Impact of
Leb i sol 1 and 2: The first
album of the band, released in 1978, was well received by critics and with its
unusual musical structure and unusual scales it is a magnificent album, truly a
must for any collector of Yugoslav prog With the song
Devetka you can clearly hear the jazz influence in the work of Leb i Sol. Devetka: Here we have a
more folk-like song Pod vodom: In the same
year the band released Leb i Sol 2 which was more successful than the debut
album commercially as well as musically. Here we have
the simply stunning Akupunktura Akupunktura: And another
stunning song, this album just keeps on giving and giving Marija: Rucni Rad: Wow 2
fantastic albums, how can Leb i Sol top that? Simple, they made Rucni Rad!
Rucni Rad is my personal favorite of the band; at some moments its melody
seemed to bring me to tears. Who knows? Maybe you will also start weeping with
joy. Hogar: Fun fact: The
song was named after “Hagar” a comic strip by Dik Browne which was (and still is)
translated in Yugoslavia as “Hogar strasni” trans: Hagar the
terrible/terrifying. Rucni rad: A slightly different Leb i Sol: Founding
Keyboarder Dimusevski left the band and was replaced by ex-Smak keyboarder Miki
Petrovski, who left the band as well after a couple months. The band decided to
go on as a trio and recorded the album “Infinity”. With the new wave craze
coming to Yugoslavia other bands had to adapt or perish, and Leb i Sol wanted
to stay at the top. The new album has some New wave influence mixed with a good
fusion-like sound. If given a chance, “Infinity” can be a highly enjoyable
album. A clear
example of this change can be heard in the song beli mrak (which is really
enjoyable if you are a fan of New wave such as myself) Beli mrak: Sledovanje and
Kalabalak Sledovanje is
seen as a very poor album with the same influences as Infinity. Unlike
Infinity, Sledovanjes mix of new wave and jazz-fusion failed. Kalabalak is
refreshing after Sledovanje with mostly instrumental track and showed the poppy
sound of Leb i Sol. Bistra voda: Tangenta and
Zvucni Zid: Two mediocre
pop albums at best, two sad displays by a great band at its worst. Tangenta and
Zvucni Zid have little or nothing to offer to the explorer of Yugoslav Prog.
Zvucni Zid still features some smooth guitar licks and riffs by Stefanovski but
pale in comparison to the first three albums. Kao Kakao: Kao Kakao is
one of the most commercially successful albums of Yugoslavia during the 80’s.
Mostly consisting of pop driven sounds you can still recognize the prog/roots
of the band Cekam kisu: Putujemo: Another
successful pop album, not something for the prog lover but there is a gem within every album and that gem is Cukni vo Drvo. Cukni vo Drvo:
Culture fact: Cukni
vo drvo is Macedonian for “knock on wood” which is a saying in Yugoslav
countries. Example: “Let’s knock on the wood that we are all alright” it can
replace “thank goodness” if it’s more comprehensible that way. Disbandment
and reunion: After a long
hiatus(and some more or less successful live albums) the band decided to disband in 1995. 2006 a reunion tour was planned for
the 30th anniversary of the band. After the tour Vladko Stefanovski
decided to leave the band for good, which came as a shock to many Leb i Sol
fans. I TAKA NATAKA: With Dimitar
Bozikov replacing Stefanovski and with Dado Topic (Who we all know quite well
by now) the band recorded their latest album I TAKA NATAKA in 2008. Though the
elements of prog have faded away jazz is strongly featured in the new album. Not essential,
nonetheless enjoyable. Si zaljubiv
edno mome: Hope you all
enjoyed this post and I sincerely apologize for the great delay. From now on I
can only manage a post in a week or 2 with school starting. Priorities have to
be set (sadly) and exams won’t be a stroll in the park this year (I’m getting sick of just
thinking of them). Anyway next post might be a special post or a regular post
so keep your eyes open. Edited by Weirdamigo - August 29 2010 at 06:43 |
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Weirdamigo
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Posted: August 25 2010 at 15:06 | |||||
Thanks for the compliment, i'm just a bit disappointed at myself for not updating as often as I would like to.... still don't know when the next post will be up
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: August 24 2010 at 07:40 | |||||
Thanks for sharing this often overlooked music!
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: August 24 2010 at 02:31 | |||||
This thread is also a good source of information and the summuary of what we talked about on this site until now.
Edited by Andrea Cortese - August 24 2010 at 02:31 |
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Seyo
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Posted: August 20 2010 at 07:04 | |||||
That was an incredible discovery for me too! It was recommended here for inclusion into PA some time ago but was rejected. Nonetheless, "prog" or not, it is an amazingly rocking album, I would say some early precursors to latecomers Partibrejkers or Majke... |
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Seyo
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Posted: August 20 2010 at 06:57 | |||||
Your post is the best proof for me that all this work of mine makes sense. I appriciate that much. |
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Seyo
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Posted: August 20 2010 at 06:53 | |||||
In that case, I can hardly refuse your generous recommendation. I will certainly look for Bilja & Bistrik... |
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ljubaspriest
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 16:58 | |||||
One more thing,before I forget(I'm 53,getting senile).Found a used cd from a band called FIRE "Could you understand?" on a South-African(?)label Skyf Zol.I heard of them before,album of theirs is one of the rarest lp's around collectors circles.Apparently they hailed from Croatia(ex YU) and members are:Jura Havidic,Miljenko Balic and Emil Vugrinec,and they played psychedelic hard rock with some killer fuzzed-out guitar leads,stuff everybody call "stoner-rock" nowadays.Well worth investigating.
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ljubaspriest
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 16:36 | |||||
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ljubaspriest
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 16:09 | |||||
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Seyo
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 15:07 | |||||
Ljubas, I have not heard Bilja Krstić yet. My interest generally stops at 1990 (and it is practical to define some boundaries for the research purposes) and I only occassionally follow what is happening in the successor Yugoslav states. There are some good things to be sure (Darkwood Dub is alredy mentioned) but I don't find anything as challenging for my ears as some oldies. It is not only "turbo-folk" but the general trend is awful everywhere I am afraid. |
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Weirdamigo
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 15:02 | |||||
Leb I Sol is the next band on the blog so you I will definitely mention Stefanovski. Another great guitarist to be introduced, so much to do so much to do
It's quite an honor for me to see you post here, I've always read your reviews with great delight even before I joined PA, keep up the fantastic work. With the list you provided me has saved me a great deal of work and I will get to reviewing Ex-YU albums as soon as I can.
I will do my best . I just hope the quality won't deteriorate .
Wow. Thats quite a praise you gave me , thanks you . It is truly sad what became of music in the Ex-YU countries, most people don't even regard the rock scene as worthy of their time, truly a depressing sight to behold but as we all know, rock will never die. I am surprised that you found a Suncokret album, I've been looking for one for a couple of years now. A fantastic band that I will have to review sooner or later. If you are still on the lookout for albums of the 70's and 80's I would suggest that you try "Croatia Records" the next time you come to visit, they are what's left of the great Yugoslav record label "Yugoton". Regards from Serbia Edited by Weirdamigo - August 19 2010 at 15:08 |
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Seyo
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 14:58 | |||||
Thanks Todd! I am glad to hear that my work was not in vain... Still, there are lots of obscure but good music from exYU to discover... Cheers! |
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ljubaspriest
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 12:47 | |||||
Great job so far, Weirdamigo.Let the proggers all over the world hear some of the goods produced in our beloved Yugoslavia during golden times.I was visiting Bosnia&Serbia this past may and was deeply disappointed by state of musical affairs over there.Amount of "neo-turbo-folk" content on radio and TV stations is morbidly inadequate.I had hard time finding any quality(not pirate)cd's in Bosnia.Belgrade(Serbia)offered little more,so I scored "Kongres rock majstora"(finally on cd),a great compilation of 16 songs from 4 best guitarists in YU rock of mid 70's,RM Tocak's first album,Suncokret's "Moje bube" and several used lp's(Smak,Boomerang,Time).Best new(at least to my ears)artist I found interesting was Biljana Krstic(formerly of Suncokret&Rani Mraz)with her band Bistrik Orchestra,playing kind of folk w/mild prog influences mostly in instrumentation.It's probably a strech,but I will call it Balkan version of Dead Can Dance.Maybe somebody would consider adding them to the YU-prog list roster.Seyo,what do you think?Anyway,keep on proggin' Weirdamigo and good luck.Regards from Canada.
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Todd
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Posted: August 19 2010 at 11:46 | |||||
Ahh, Seyo!
Your reviews have helped me sort through these difficult compilations and albums, most recently Korni Grupa and Indexi. Many many many thanks! (And your posting the yurock blogspot link has been most helpful as well!)
Weirdamigo, this blog is wonderful! The band entries you've posted so far have been especially good. Keep up the great work! Long live Yugo Prog! (And Eastern European prog in general!)
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