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Pnoom!
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 14:07 |
NaturalScience wrote:
Just ordered all three Art Bears records (that should put a smile on laplace's face )
I don't know, Pnoom, I wasn't thrilled with Desperate Straights. I would place In Praise of Learning above it.
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Meh, Desperate Straights is great.
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pkazee
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 14:06 |
Oops. Wrote that before you added to the list. Personally, I'd put DESPERATE STRAIGHTS at the top of the entire list. I think its absolutely brilliant in every way. Still sing these songs to myself years after 1st hearing them. That said, I certainly understand that Dagmar is not for everyone!
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Padraic
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 14:05 |
Just ordered all three Art Bears records (that should put a smile on laplace's face ) I don't know, Pnoom, I wasn't thrilled with Desperate Straights. I would place In Praise of Learning above it.
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pkazee
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 14:02 |
Certainly agree with the order. WC and LE are the only two I still routinely listen to from start to finish.
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Pnoom!
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 14:00 |
James wrote:
Oh and Desperate Straights is weaker too. I've heard that one, Lappy.
I will I will! I even have Slapp Happy's debut.
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Nah, not at all. And Casablanca Moon isn't a collaboration, I don't think...
Western Culture: 9.9
Winter Songs: 9.1
Leg End: 8.9
Unrest: 8.6
The World As It Is Today: 8.5
Desperate Straights: 8.3
Hopes and Fears: 8.2
In Praise of Learning: 7.7
Pretty consistent group of people, eh?
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laplace
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 13:53 |
Teehee. Perhaps it's just me, but I can't find anything with Dagmar Krause weaker than anything without.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 13:51 |
Oh and Desperate Straights is weaker too. I've heard that one, Lappy.
I will I will! I even have Slapp Happy's debut.
Edited by James - May 08 2008 at 13:52
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laplace
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 13:49 |
then listen to it =P
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 13:48 |
Their weakest is their joint effort with Slapp Happy "Casablanca Moon", although I've yet to hear the original version with Faust (now called Noom Acnalbasac), which I do have on CD.
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Pnoom!
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 13:38 |
Western Culture: ***** (9.9/10)
Leg End: ****/12 (8.9/10)
Unrest: **** (8.6/10)
In Praise of Learning: ***1/2 (7.7/10)
Need to relisten to IPOL though.
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pkazee
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 13:35 |
I think WESTERN CULTURE is easily the best overall intro to Henry Cow for anyone who is already comfortable with more muscular prog like some of that from King Crimson (RED comes immediately to mind), and many of the RIO groups. If one is coming from generally gentler climes, however (like Yes or Hatfield or Gentle Giant, I suppose), then LEG-END would probably be a better entrance point.
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 13:26 |
I guess that's all that need be said.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 13:24 |
All of Henry Cow's albums are extraordinarily brilliant.
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Padraic
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 13:17 |
Listening to Western Culture...the piano playing on "Gretel's Tale" is otherworldly - I mean, just ludicrously good.
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 12:37 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
NaturalScience wrote:
As you've surmised, Unrest is divided
such that the first half is compositions and the second is very
free-form avant-garde works. Some people really think they missed
the mark doing that second part, in fact I think Hugues gave the album two stars, which I would judge to be a little too harsh. Check out Leg End, I think that's a bloody brilliant album myself.
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Sums up my review of the album in 2 lines.
I'll be doing some used cd hunting after school comes to a close.
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I honestly don't know what I would rate Unrest to be, though it would certainly be more than two stars and I wouldn't label it a "stinker" - for me "Half Asleep, Half Awake" and "Ruins" alone would get me to three stars. Not sure I could get all the way up to four stars, it might be sort of a 3.5. Whereas Leg End is an easy four star and I could see my way to possibly giving it 5. edit: I think I'm starting to agree with Pnoom about half-star ratings...but I'm not here to stir up that hornet's nest, so no more comment about the matter from me.
Edited by NaturalScience - May 08 2008 at 12:40
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 12:10 |
Either "Leg-End" or "Unrest": any other HC introduction would be bold and not necessarily productive.
Kidn regards.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 11:26 |
NaturalScience wrote:
As you've surmised, Unrest is divided
such that the first half is compositions and the second is very
free-form avant-garde works. Some people really think they missed
the mark doing that second part, in fact I think Hugues gave the album two stars, which I would judge to be a little too harsh. Check out Leg End, I think that's a bloody brilliant album myself.
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Sums up my review of the album in 2 lines.
I'll be doing some used cd hunting after school comes to a close.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Padraic
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 09:48 |
As you've surmised, Unrest is divided such that the first half is compositions and the second is very free-form avant-garde works. Some people really think they missed the mark doing that second part, in fact I think Hugues gave the album two stars, which I would judge to be a little too harsh. Check out Leg End, I think that's a bloody brilliant album myself.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 07 2008 at 23:58 |
I need to explore them more. I have Unrest and can definitely hear the
talent. Ruins I can easily say is a flawless work of art. However, the
album as a whole does have it problems, but form what I gather thats a
common complaint.
I plan on moving onto Western Culture next, but for some reason I've
gone a year since getting Unrest and have still not purchased it.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Pnoom!
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Posted: May 06 2008 at 08:38 |
James wrote:
ZOMG they iz bettr than ze Magma u n00b! |
Phayl moar pleez
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