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Zargus
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Posted: September 19 2007 at 20:18 |
In one thread everyone whonders why no one likes prog, in another thread everyone blame a prog band for selling out caus 1 of thiere songs got played on the TV.. sigh.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:16 |
salmacis wrote:
This isn't new, I'm afraid, Micky!! 'Karn Evil 9 1st Impression Part II' was used as the theme tune for ghastly UK game show 'The Generation Game' presented by the irksome 'comedian' (and ELP fan...) Jim Davidson. AFAIK, they recorded a special version for the show in the 1990s... |
I wondered why that theme tune sounded familiar! I wasn't thinking of The Generation Game though, I was thinking of that another gameshow that is similarly irksome.
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salmacis
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 13:11 |
This is not all that unusual, no, can't say it bothers me either way. Rick Wakeman's 'Arthur' was apparently also used as the theme tune to 'Election Night' coverage in the UK. Allegedly, it was also used as the theme for a Cuban soap opera (when Wakeman played there the crowd erupted into applause when the opening riff kicked in, and this was apparently the reason) and I've seen it used on a trailer for a poor Kung Fu movie too.
Heck, I even heard Jethro Tull's 'We Used To Know' used in UK soap 'Hollyoaks' earlier in the year!!!
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debrewguy
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 12:39 |
bluetailfly wrote:
Shakespeare wrote:
I wouldn't really consider that selling out........... |
Just out of curiosity, what would you consider it? |
IF I happened to be an ELP fan watching the game, I would consider it a great excuse to quaff a cold one in celebration. Of course, If I was one of those prog elitists who believe that this music is best kept out of sight & hearing range from the masses so as not to disarm us of one of the illusions that lead us to think that we are superior because of our artistic tastes. Get over it folks. I'm sure some of the "appalled" would just as readily whine that only the stereotypical classic 4/4 time caveman rock (BTO RULES, MAN !) is used in such instances when many of our prog idols have compositions that would easily fit into the spirit of things due to the lyric matter & music. .
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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A B Negative
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 11:51 |
So it's not selling out if you play someone else's music? Makes me feel better about the time I played Country & Western for money...
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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chopper
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 11:48 |
That doesn't count as it's not an ELP song in the first place.
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A B Negative
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 10:46 |
Scotland's national news programme used Fanfare for the Common Man as its theme music in the late 70s and early 80s.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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chopper
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 07:48 |
salmacis wrote:
This isn't new, I'm afraid, Micky!! 'Karn Evil 9 1st Impression Part II' was used as the theme tune for ghastly UK game show 'The Generation Game' presented by the irksome 'comedian' (and ELP fan...) Jim Davidson. AFAIK, they recorded a special version for the show in the 1990s... |
Carl Palmer actually appeared on the Generation Game. The contestants had to play his drum solo from Tocatta. Or something like that.
btw, I think the version of Karn Evil 9 used as the theme tune is the one from the live album "The Show That Never Ends".
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KoS
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 00:05 |
That's an awesome Freudian slip.
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micky
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 00:04 |
rileydog22 wrote:
*spills diet pepsi in Micky's lap*
Woops, sorry about that.
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hahahha.. happens all the time like today ... found an album review on
the internet that instead of saying hard rock ....said hard cock....
whoops..... I did spill my diet coke laughing so hard.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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KoS
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Posted: September 17 2007 at 00:00 |
I'd consider it selling out if ELP, was selling it in person, like Jessica Simpson for Pizza Hut. Bill was targeting those people.
Edited by king of Siam - September 17 2007 at 00:00
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 23:57 |
1800iareyay wrote:
Agreed with riley/Ivan's post. ELP sold out long ago. Hell, Love Beach was a sellout album before Re-Works. I'm willing to forgive songs that appear on ads when a band doesn't have the rights to their own music, but to my knowledge ELP's own Manticore label owns the rights, so they put their music on air. BIll Hicks had an excellent rant on the sacrifice of artistic credibility that comes with selling out to ads. I could never hope to come close to the fire and accuracy of his diatribe, so check it out to sum things up nicely. |
Personally, I'd keep ELP on the artistic roll call. They weren't spokespeople, just someone used their song. And they're way more creative than Jay Leno
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<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 23:55 |
*spills diet pepsi in Micky's lap* Woops, sorry about that.
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KoS
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 23:42 |
Oh for f**k's sake. Solisbury Hill is everywhere, and we still respect Gabriel.
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Leningrad
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 23:35 |
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 23:26 |
febus wrote:
rileydog22 wrote:
Ok, but what about Re-Works? Remixes are just about the lowest form of selling-out. |
You may have a point, Riley but who do you think is gonna buy these remixes??? not the old fans like us, for sure but i don't think mainstream teen boopers are going to as well; so i am not sure if there is a big commercial business brainstorming behind these re-works as the sales potential seems rather very limited. |
Selling out without selling copies: the worst kind of selling-out.
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Dim
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 23:24 |
micky wrote:
wow...I'm impressed .. one of my threads makes it to page 2... and I didn't even have to hijack it to help it.
way to go guys.
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I know how you feel
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febus
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 23:24 |
rileydog22 wrote:
Ok, but what about Re-Works? Remixes are just about the lowest form of selling-out. |
You may have a point, Riley but who do you think is gonna buy these remixes??? not the old fans like us, for sure but i don't think mainstream teen boopers are going to as well; so i am not sure if there is a big commercial business brainstorming behind these re-works as the sales potential seems rather very limited.
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micky
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 23:23 |
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rileydog22
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Posted: September 16 2007 at 23:22 |
micky wrote:
heyitsthatguy wrote:
if they had to do it for any drink, Dr. Pepper was by far the best choice they could've made
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pfffff... Diet Coke my friend.
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Diet Coke blows. Diet Pepsi kicks its sorry little ass.
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