News from Nick Barrett (Pendragon)

Bob Greece wrote: Nick Barrett wrote: yeah....too right, where is the poll , is the heat gettin too much in the kitchen boys? fanks for the other support messages! Luv NB   Nick, is that really you?!

I wonder too...check the profile

Nick Barrett wrote: yeah....too right, where is the poll , is the heat gettin too much in the kitchen boys? fanks for the other support messages! Luv NB

darqdean wrote: I really hope that the next Pendragon CD won't be the last.   I do not doubt Nick's figures, but the 300 people who downloaded the 10 album package would never in a million years have gone out and bought all 10 CD's, some of them might, but not all. It is impossible to calculate the actual loss incured because it is impossible to predict how many of those 300 people would have even bought 1 CD, but it would not have been all 300. However, it would have been some, so Toff Records,Pendragon and Nick have definitely lost out.   The sorry fact is that the majority of non-mainstream bands do not make money and only few of them are lucky enough to be able to do the job full-time. The maths of CD sales, royalties and label contracts are readily available on the net and it is so scary and weighted in the record labels favour that you wonder why anyone would even bother trying in the first place. If you are self-financed or unsigned then mechandise is the only way of recovering some of the recording costs, because you won't get them back by CD sales alone.   I don't approve of downloading, or "try before you buy" as it is <SPAN lang=EN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-: EN">euphemistically called</SPAN>, but if a band has some tracks on MySpace, I'll listen and if I like I'll buy.

Speaking for myself, I did not actively go out and seek the leaked copies of the new Rush and DT--they were offered by a co-worker. It would be hard for anyone NOT to give them a listen.

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If I see an album by them, I'd get it. They seem like an interesting band and I've been meaning to check them out. No, I have not downloaded any of their cds.

We have no choicw, we have to support our prog bands. BUY every album, go to every show, go ahead get a shirt.

I admit to having done some things related to album leaks I'm not proud of, but since I don't have much of an income and mu lust for discovering new music is insatiable, I think my situation is understandable. I have bought every Pendie's album I have, I believe, even Acoustically Challenged. I do wish circumstances would have been in my favor when getting The Masquerade Overture, so I could magically have the new issue with the bonus older material!

Edited by stonebeard - May 15 2007 at 20:44

yeah....too right, where is the poll , is the heat gettin too much in the kitchen boys?

fanks for the other support messages!

Luv

NB

huge wrote: Most bands output are accessible through the high street, though at times a little investigation and inquiry helps. I purchased both Knight Areas albums through Woolworths and paid what I felt was a reasonable price (£9.99), their delivery times though forecast as long were in fact prompt. I state the above in response to Gecko and his Swindon problem, it is the same here in Shrewsbury...

The popular stuff can be found (I've found a UK outlet online who can get a lot of prog for me, some of which is quite hard to get elsewhere), but a lot of rare stuff I cannot find anywhere (legally), because they were only brought out on vinyl, didn't get the coverage they deserved and never got re-issued on CD.  Of course, many of these bands weren't amazing, but many released solid albums that deserve to be re-released.  I can only hope eventually a lot of my favourite music is re-released.  When I do find them, I'll obviously try and purchase them.  I prefer CDs over Digital copies anyhow.  I've always preferred it that way.

By the way, I actually know a guy who doesn't buy CDs any more, he downloads everything.  He's not into prog and is mainly into more mainstream metal, but he's still not helping the system.  It doesn't matter if the band or artists are millionaires, it's still not a good thing to do.

I've been guilty of downloading leaked albums before now, I'll freely admit it, but I do not plan to download leaks again.  Infact, I don't want to download brand new releases at all if I can.  I've deliberately held back on purchasing the new Alamaailman Vasarat and Anekdoten albums (even though I could download them if I wanted to), because I want them on CD.  I also pretty well know I'll enjoy them both (I've heard samples for the new AV album on their MySpace account).  I'm waiting for my source to get them in stock, then I can purchase them legally.

Therefore, I'm very pro-CD/Vinyl release.


Edited by Geck0 - May 15 2007 at 14:38

Some fault must lie within the music business itself. Whether it be retailers, reviewers, DJs or someone from the record company - somebody is leaking albums onto the internet before their official release date.

Edited by Tony R - May 15 2007 at 13:18

Well, it's an impressive comment by mr. Nick Barrett!