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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Never touched the stuff. Can't stand it, and I wish my offspring were the same.

It stinks, it perpetuates a horribly nasty criminal enterprise (even in countries where it is legal), and I have personally always preferred to use the brain God gave me in order to "understand" (man) the music.

In other news, I have not had a cigarette since March 2022, either. I really do believe I have beaten it this time.

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I tried it as a teen, around 1981. Did not like the experience...AT ALL! I have never smoked cigs so that has never been an issue for me.....I too am of the camp that legalizing this drug has/will not improve anything. Again, politicians promise of the huge windfall of sales tax money that was to improve/build schools and God knows what other BS they mentioned to get it passed........Seems all those promises went up in smoke LOL.

I smell it everywhere I go now, that sh&t stinks! Remember that TV advert.......

 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2023 at 06:20
I'm glad that it's moving out of the hands of criminals in the US, but it's old hat to me and I'd rather spend my remaining years with a fully conscious mind.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MortSahlFan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2023 at 14:29
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Never touched the stuff. Can't stand it, and I wish my offspring were the same.

It stinks, it perpetuates a horribly nasty criminal enterprise (even in countries where it is legal), and I have personally always preferred to use the brain God gave me in order to "understand" (man) the music.


Howould you know if you've never tried it? TongueWink

In the NL, the Weed trade was "given" to the bikers (HA or Bandidos) , so they'd have something to live legal & declared upon, but unfortunately after a couple of decade, they "expanded" to other substances

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2023 at 13:33
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Never touched the stuff. Can't stand it, and I wish my offspring were the same.

It stinks, it perpetuates a horribly nasty criminal enterprise (even in countries where it is legal), and I have personally always preferred to use the brain God gave me in order to "understand" (man) the music.


Howould you know if you've never tried it? TongueWink

In the NL, the Weed trade was "given" to the bikers (HA or Bandidos) , so they'd have something to live legal & declared upon, but unfortunately after a couple of decade, they "expanded" to other substances

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Grumpyprogfan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2023 at 10:25
^I like the way you think, JD.

I would like to see a meth, opioid, and alcohol spider web.
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Originally posted by Archisorcerus Archisorcerus wrote:

The cobweb with the effect of mirijuana... Sort of like butterfly-shaped. You know, flying, being high etc. Party

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What this tells me is that drugs can help break the cycle of OCD and free the mind to be creative, not redundant.
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^ When I was a kid, the anti-drug programs at school would show us similar spider webs and say they were caused by LSD.

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The cobweb with the effect of mirijuana... Sort of like butterfly-shaped. You know, flying, being high etc. Party

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lazland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2023 at 09:23
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

^Maybe your offspring say the same about having several pints a day at the pub.

Congrats on stopping the tobacco.

LOL Actually, he is stopping with us at the moment, and he does enjoy a couple of beers himself.
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^Maybe your offspring say the same about having several pints a day at the pub.

Congrats on stopping the tobacco.
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Never touched the stuff. Can't stand it, and I wish my offspring were the same.

It stinks, it perpetuates a horribly nasty criminal enterprise (even in countries where it is legal), and I have personally always preferred to use the brain God gave me in order to "understand" (man) the music.

In other news, I have not had a cigarette since March 2022, either. I really do believe I have beaten it this time.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2023 at 06:12
let's just stay above the moral melee
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^ Gong's Flying Teapot was a very timely choice. I've been busy listening to all of Gong's 58 albums again for the second time (on my Canterbury Scene thread), so I may be Gong for some time. Tongue
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^How about some alternative views?





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My Love of Music is the only Drug I need. Smile



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Never indulged and never plan to. My life is just fine without it.

Maybe my attitude will change if someday I need or want it medicinally but the only the future knows that. Even if that comes to pass it will be edibles only. I will never smoke anything. Not gonna happen.
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If weed didn't exist, I'd smoke cigarettes.

I love breaking those vape cartridges and dabbing it over a joint, and then quickly cover it up with kief.
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In my country it's banned.
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Hi,

Never was any kind of user ... it just didn't go well with me, but I did partake of various psychedelics in my time, and enjoyed those trips a lot more, specially when I had music in my ears ... which was really far out ... and an experience that I'm not sure folks can have as much today, considering how much some stuff is broken down and mixed with a lot of garbage. The originals, Purple Haze, and Sunshine, still were, and likely are, the very best of the whole lot ... and Peyote was not my thing. Did some mushrooms a few times, and they were fine, but not anywhere near the quality of the originals ... at all!

Let me tell you ... listen to The Rite of Spring on it, as a regular piece of classical music, and then go listen to Tomita's version ... and enjoy the trip ... something the metal heads, I'm not sure will ever understand, as it appears it's mostly about loudness ... not quite/exactly the music! At least that's how I see it!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2023 at 01:15
It's been legal in the Netherlands (where I work) for decades, but of late restrictive policies have appeared: mainly towards foreigners/tourists that can not behave properly and tourism pressures growing tired locals (but that's +/- global). It doesn't help that coffee shops have been also a façade for harder drugs since the mid-90's. Other neighbouring countries hace variable policies that can change from one decade to another. There isn't a European Union policy towards weed, so members statescan do whatever they wish. Right now is not good to be caught with small amounts weed in Belgium (for ex), whereas 10 years it was "forgotten" about.

I've started toking around 75/6 (age 13) and it helped me understanding much more of the music I was enjoying. FTM, I could almost make the shortcut: weed = prog. It didn't hinder my schooling much (IMHO), though I'm not sure some HS teachers might say the same. While going thru Uni, I even dealt it for a while to get my stuff free, but this was small scale stuff (buying quarter-pounds). We even toked during exam study bouts - as it can help you concentrate more. It never lead me to smoking tobacco, even if it was needed for those hashoils or hash bars. I've never experienced a dependency on it and it never lead me towards harder drugs.

Weed: I've got to taste some rare & exceptional stuff (Hawaiian Blue, for ex), but what was easily available was Thai weed, Ganja (lamb's bread) and Columbian gold. I liked weed, because it was always social & jumpy (dancing mood), but unfortunately I discovered that mixing weed & alcohol wasn't always a good experience. Sometimes, the mixing lead to "bad trips"".
Derivates: by the early 80's, oils were best stayed away from, because all too easily cut with crap.  Never a big fan of blond (moroccan) or red (lebanese) hash (or even that green turkish stuff), I always preferred the "black stuff" from central asia (I've even tried opium-laced stuff but didn't like it much).


Upon my crossing the Pond back to the Old World, while hardly abandoning it, I successfully managed to cut back on my toking, but this was partly because of the way Europeans toke: way too much tobacco, even in weed joints. If a normal cigarette's tobacco contents lasted me three or four doobies, in Europe, it's often 1.5 cigaterre going inside those rolling-paper assembly cones. Soooo, I mostly toked by myself in the 90's, whereas my 70/80's toking was always very social. We'd be looking for someone to share the doobie (hoping for a return favor in the future), even if we weren't planning on hanging around together in the following hours. I've grown my own plants for roughly a decade (seeds coming from world weeds), and had mixed results - because always outdoors and foreign weeds not always able to acclimatize.

TBH, since living here in the NL during the weekdays (mid-00's), I've +/- regularly cut back over the years and I almost don't toke anymore (not a doobie yet in 2023), in part because the stuff has become too strong - especially the local weeds (skunk & stuff).  Most of the local "skewed stuff" available in coffee shops is standardizedly too strong and finding foreign weeds (that remained +/- the same) had become increasingly difficult, because of smaller & smaller demand. I don't miss it at all, because most of the modern stuff tends to knock me off to near-sleep-states. Some of those commercial weeds are so strong that I'm not sure I can qualify them as "soft drugs" anymore.

I was never into "eating" the stuff, BTW, though I did try it: the buzz is different: more body-axed than brain-axed.







Edited by Sean Trane - August 11 2023 at 01:18
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