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I meant a similar storaging solution I’m a looong ways from building my own computer
Plus I really only use a PC for frequenting PA and surfing the net. I don’t game or anything similar.

Thanks for the link to the speakers

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For a desktop model it's much better to go for a custom build tower unit (which mine is) as anything 'off the shelf' tends to lack features - even an optical drive is considered an optional extra nowadays - personally I couldn't live without one!

Those speakers are by Creative by the way, and pack a real punch!

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I do awfully miss sitting in front of a computer now that I think of it. It’d be so much more comfortable visiting PA over my iPhone that I am using now.
Definitely high on the to-get list and I need something similar to what you’ve got methinks. I am planning on visiting my “IT-buddy” over the summer, who also happens to be an old friend of mine, and I figure he can lead me the way

And now for something completely different:
I am getting a little tired of ‘unusually designed’ cd “cases”. Holy moly! Trying to fit those suckers in with the rest of the collection is like placing a sausage between two carrots. May look great but they are often too tall to fit on the shelf. Some of them are like small labyrinths you need to navigate before you reach a cd wedged hard down inside what looks like the back of a book. Every time you take the cd out you scratch it a little bit. Smartypants

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Well my current rig has 2x2TB (internal) hard drives dedicated to media storage. To attach another hard drive I'd have to use a USB storage caddy - as I recall there is one lurking somewhere in my odds & sods cupboard.




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Which actually brings up a pretty good subject: storage space.
If you like me, and probably many others out there, have compiled quite a vast collection of cds/LPs and want to digitalise the collection..without compromising the sound quality, it’s perfectly alright to use MP3 320 or AAC256 as both are transparent to the human ear. The ‘stuff’ that’s missing is already missing from the sound when you hear it in FLAC. It’s the sounds that are masked by the sounds that are much higher in amplitude. That’s at least a part of it as I recall
Anyhoo..when you have so many cds it invariably ends up at quite the storage space if you’re going for FLAC.

It’s also very deceptful out there. Certain audiophile streaming platforms fx are offering albums that genuinely sound ‘different’/better to what you’ll hear over something like a Spotify 320 connection....but it has nothing to do with the reasons they’re telling you...it’s because the album is from a different master/mix/remaster..and well sometimes they cheat and implement a little DSP/EQ without letting you know.
So many reasons why many folks get audio nervosa..and it simply isn’t worth it. Science is on our side
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^thanks I appreciate it. I do have a few contacts but it’s nice to know that there are folks in the know here as well.
Regarding soundquality though: There’s no difference between FLAC and MP3 320
You can do a blindtest via Foobar2000 and many other similar platforms. Just remember to volume match the files before you do so. Or else the FLAC will be ever so slightly louder and effectively sound better. Louder always sounds better...even when we’re not registering the difference in volume.
I am a complete neanderthal when it comes to IT, but I spent a good amount of time down the Hi-Fi rabbithole until a friend of mine showed me the way out. He works at a professional sound studio and invited me in for some blindtesting sessions..and I am forever grateful. The FLAC vs MP3 320 though was something I did at home

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Well if you want any technical hints or tips, don't hesitate to ask me.
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^I am fairly incompetent when it comes to computers
Merely going by what I remember my buddy telling me.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:


I am however looking into something similar to hold all the MP3s of my cd library (over half of the collection hasn’t been ripped yet. Not exactly looking forward to the job ).


If you've got the hard drive space, then rip them to the lossless .FLAC format (to give near CD quality sound) instead of the 'lossy' MP3.  You'll be amazed at the difference in sound quality, especially if you've got a decent soundcard and some good speakers.  [I started this project (around 9,000 tracks ago) at the beginning of lockdown, and still haven't quite finished.]

Curiously I find that good old Windows Media Player is one of the simplest tools for ripping CD's, tho it can be done in most other media players/organisers (a bit of a pain to do in VLC I found).


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That is basically what a NAS is (I believe).


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network-attached_storage
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Honestly, I don't really get the attitude that it has to be something material. I mean, OK, I love a nice LP cover, and the discussion about what sounds better is legit, but other than that, music is for the ears, and I want to pay the artists for their imagination and work, not the company that puts some vinyl or polycarbonate plastic in my place. The world is too full of stuff anyway. 

I agree with this almost word for word...yet keep buying cds. First of all I don’t trust the internet, external harddrives or a NAS. All those things can go wrong and have done so for me in the past. My buddy’s NAS broke down a little while ago and he lost a lot of music he supposedly couldn’t lose because of the bulletproof design .


This is why I have 2 external 1TB hard drives, one to back up the other, ever since one crapped out on me.

That is basically what a NAS is (I believe). Two external hardrives that mirror each other, so if one breaks down you still have all your data intact on the other unit...but like I mentioned, my buddy’s recently broke down, so I’m not entirely sure I trust the design yet.
I am however looking into something similar to hold all the MP3s of my cd library (over half of the collection hasn’t been ripped yet. Not exactly looking forward to the job ).

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I really enjoy reading this thread, and big thumbs up for the pics some of you guys are posting. I’m making some mental notes regarding my own situation and what I might go for. One thing’s for certain though, I’m planning on adding a bit of colour to whatever I decide to go for..or merely buy something peacocky from the get-go.

Regarding the more serious pitfalls of this hobby, I think I fairly early on learned my lesson via Pink Floyd. Up until that point I was a man (small boy) possessed with the idea of owning everything by my fave artists. I then bought The Final Cut and A Momentary Lapse Of Reason..and quite frankly didn’t like them. The latter was a pale imitation of the music Infell in love with over Delicate Sound Of Thunder whilst the former made me want to listen to The Wall. Once in a while I spin those suckers and always end up feeling the same.
Since then I’ve also opened up to many different styles of music...so space is limited...and perhaps more importantly: why would I want to own music that I never listen to?
That being said...I do know a few guys that own 7 or 8 “different” copies of Dark Side Of The Moon...and the rest of their collections pretty much follow suit....which basically is the secret recipe for entirely filling out a basement with but a mere 1000 albums
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

The photo's are from when we moved and I had refile them. They are actually in alphabetical piles from top left to bottom right. They are all now in cabinets in alphabetical order.

Thank God LOL.......Even I was experiencing anxiety attacks at your pics! 

This will blow your head up then. This was pre-packing before the move.




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Originally posted by Progishness Progishness wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

GOOD CHRIST MAN !!!!How do you even know what's in those piles?
Helpful hint...if you can get your hands on empty photocopy paper boxes, cut them down to 5" high. Wrap a piece of packing tape around the perimeter (approx one third of the way down for reinforcement) and place the CD's spine up. Makes seeing what you need easier and they are stackable and easy to move.



I use wooden 6 or 12 wine bottle crates and do not cut anything at all. This allows for placing other boxes above them and not resting on the Jewel cases or mini-lp formats. 
Alternatively, you could wine cardboard wine boxes as opposed to those all-too fragile Xerox boxes. Much sturdier (designed for the weight inside and protecting it from shocks) and ready for moving out

With a little DYI, those wooden boxes can be used as superposed shelves and the opened top of the crate downsized a bit to make an inner horizontal shelf . Well chosen boxes can make a quite decorative set up in your stereo/living room.


You could license the idea to IKEA for a flatpack version!

why would you pay an ugly multinational firm  for something when you can recuperate them for free from supermarkets? ConfusedWink


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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

GOOD CHRIST MAN !!!!How do you even know what's in those piles?
Helpful hint...if you can get your hands on empty photocopy paper boxes, cut them down to 5" high. Wrap a piece of packing tape around the perimeter (approx one third of the way down for reinforcement) and place the CD's spine up. Makes seeing what you need easier and they are stackable and easy to move.



I use wooden 6 or 12 wine bottle crates and do not cut anything at all. This allows for placing other boxes above them and not resting on the Jewel cases or mini-lp formats. 
Alternatively, you could wine cardboard wine boxes as opposed to those all-too fragile Xerox boxes. Much sturdier (designed for the weight inside and protecting it from shocks) and ready for moving out

With a little DYI, those wooden boxes can be used as superposed shelves and the opened top of the crate downsized a bit to make an inner horizontal shelf . Well chosen boxes can make a quite decorative set up in your stereo/living room.


You could license the idea to IKEA for a flatpack version!
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Honestly, I don't really get the attitude that it has to be something material. I mean, OK, I love a nice LP cover, and the discussion about what sounds better is legit, but other than that, music is for the ears, and I want to pay the artists for their imagination and work, not the company that puts some vinyl or polycarbonate plastic in my place. The world is too full of stuff anyway. 

I agree with this almost word for word...yet keep buying cds. First of all I don’t trust the internet, external harddrives or a NAS. All those things can go wrong and have done so for me in the past. My buddy’s NAS broke down a little while ago and he lost a lot of music he supposedly couldn’t lose because of the bulletproof design .

This is why I have 2 external 1TB hard drives, one to back up the other, ever since one crapped out on me.
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

GOOD CHRIST MAN !!!!How do you even know what's in those piles?
Helpful hint...if you can get your hands on empty photocopy paper boxes, cut them down to 5" high. Wrap a piece of packing tape around the perimeter (approx one third of the way down for reinforcement) and place the CD's spine up. Makes seeing what you need easier and they are stackable and easy to move.



I use wooden 6 or 12 wine bottle crates and do not cut anything at all. This allows for placing other boxes above them and not resting on the Jewel cases or mini-lp formats. 
Alternatively, you could wine cardboard wine boxes as opposed to those all-too fragile Xerox boxes. Much sturdier (designed for the weight inside and protecting it from shocks) and ready for moving out

With a little DYI, those wooden boxes can be used as superposed shelves and the opened top of the crate downsized a bit to make an inner horizontal shelf . Well chosen boxes can make a quite decorative set up in your stereo/living room.




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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Honestly, I don't really get the attitude that it has to be something material. I mean, OK, I love a nice LP cover, and the discussion about what sounds better is legit, but other than that, music is for the ears, and I want to pay the artists for their imagination and work, not the company that puts some vinyl or polycarbonate plastic in my place. The world is too full of stuff anyway. 

I agree with this almost word for word...yet keep buying cds. First of all I don’t trust the internet, external harddrives or a NAS. All those things can go wrong and have done so for me in the past. My buddy’s NAS broke down a little while ago and he lost a lot of music he supposedly couldn’t lose because of the bulletproof design
Mostly I just like to pay the musicians properly for the music..which is naive I know...but hoping the dough gets to them via streaming services is verging on stupidity....and I don’t like the fact that music nowadays has become such an insignificant commodity that large portions of the world feel they don’t have to pay or support their fave artists.
In a Toyota Corolla world there’s not even a way to make the money back from touring, which is where most musicians have earned their keep during the last decade or so.
Truth be told it’d be so much easier if we just did away with money altogether. It’s a symbol of value, nothing more.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Anyone ever own Digital compact cassette, DAT (Digital Audio Tape), or Super Audio CD's or MiniDiscs?

I had a minidisc player around the change of the millennium. Not a small portable one but a rack model. I got it from a friend who was always borrowing money and could never pay back. 

I made "mix-mindiscs" but never had much use for them in the end. I think I saw albums on minidisc for sale in a record store once or twice but never bought any. 

I ended up either giving the player to someone or throwing it away, can't remember. 
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I'm totally nuts and a total hoarder. I have tons of papers, a lot of books, a lot of dvds so of course I have a lot of cds too. Would I change who I am? Nope. That said I do plan on downsizing and eventually selling some cds because I admit I have a lot of crap (as in cds that aren't that good). Also, I plan on stopping once I get to around 6,000 cds. They might even stop making them by the time I get close. Who knows. 

Jeez.......6,000 CDs Shocked So.......

Figure 70min on a CD x 6,000 = 420,000 minutes ÷ 60 = 7,000 hours ÷ 24 = 292 days hopefully you have a lot of vacation days stored up!! LOL.
More realistically if you listen 5 hours a day you'll need 1,400 days to listen to all 6,000 CDs once. LOL Clap

I don't care about no stinkin statistics. I have the rest of my life to listen to this stuff. Tongue Plus, I have a lot of stuff like Led Zeppelin four I don't need to listen to more than once a year and maybe not even that often. 


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