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Interactive Poll #01/2021: Protest (+ Folk) Songs |
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The Anders 
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Both, I think. I believe the song is more generally about the barbary of mistreating others for the sake of ones own fortune - be it animals or other humans.
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suitkees
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Posted: January 09 2021 at 05:41 |
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Yes, I admit it is a strange combination... I first thought to put up a resistance song from the Spanish Civil War, but I actually wanted to present something modern... and then it gets difficult to combine that with Eisler. And Têtes Raides is a group I like very much. Musically, they navigate between Jacques Brel and Punk and lyrically it is often very poetic and committed (think of Boris Vian, Georges Brassens...) and they often put a lot of humour in their music. And because I like them so much, my out of competition song is another one by Têtes Raides: Civili. It is not a protest song concerning something specific, but more a mentality... Têtes Raides - Civili: Again, not easy to transly, but I tried to stay as much as possible close to their poetics (my translation; will delete this once the poll is over): Civili Imagination stops there where life commences Stop don't live Or you will die from it Imagine a song for provision Where doubt has without doubt Sown aplenty our lives at whatever cost Our dreams of Civilisation Civili civila civilalisation If life, if Lisa If Lisa was right It's not in the songs Neither in the water of my wine That we will make, starting tomorrow Civilisations We will make a hell, make noise, make a din And hand in hand We will sing in the streets We will make of tomorrow What we would have liked it to be If it's not forbidden to sing in the streets What will we do tomorrow For that matter with our life without our dreams For that matter I don't live or I will die from it I imagine earths in fusion Where drop by drop Heavens aplenty And our lives at whatever cost For the revolution For all those who shake them The negative hands On the walls of bricks The concrete of tomorrow We will drink a toast But without water in our wines When heaven and earth Will just be one Civili civila civilalisation If life, if Lisa If Lisa was right Civili civila civilalisation If life, if Lisa If Lisa was right (And if you like this, don't hesitate to listen to the whole album: Qu'est-ce qu'on s'fait chier !)
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 08 2021 at 17:57 |
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And now first thoughts and caught up so far with all, two additions and one new:
dr wu23: Jackson Browne “For Everyman” One of the best of the singer/songwriter
genre, here with spare live setting, on his acoustic guitar with his fine voice
telling the story of the need for so many to want to return to simpler times,
for someone to tell them how to go on, but it’s up to every man, after all, to
find his own way. In the end, he seems to forgive humanity for it’s being human,
at least that is what I get from it. The Anders: (out
of competition) Gnags “Burhons” Straight
ahead rock sound, with a sense of humour about it. They remind me a bit of The Kinks in their
sound, although they are certainly not British.
I am not sure if they are pondering the plight of the chickens or if
they are comparing humans to the caged chickens (or maybe both, after all). Ronstein: Leon Rosselson “No One is Responsible” Singer/songwriter style, with plain acoustic
guitar providing the setting for the piece.
Discusses the way that so many in high positions of power will throw off
responsibility for what they may do, as they are merely doing what they’re told
(and somehow, even those people are not responsible, either). Well done and very apt for these days when it’s
always someone else who must be blamed, it seems. Leon Rosselson & Roy Bailey “Plan” Another singer/songwriter style satirical
song, this one with some jaw harp for comic relief. Makes me think a bit of music hall kind of
songs and again The Kinks, also. Very dry British humour,
this one is about bad civic planning.
Classic sort of social commentary. |
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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Cristi
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Posted: January 08 2021 at 03:40 |
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the rock opera you mention was never put to an album and as usual bands/artists met with the censorship of the time. The rock opera was played live at a student festival and that was that. The music label of the time only released two singles of this band. Cantec de Haiduc means "outlaw song". The outlaw was a theme a lot of artists had in both 70s and 80s., gee I wonder why (sarcasm, I know why, it seems inoffensive, they sing about history, but it was a bit of a figurative middle finger to the authorities). In Zaharia's case, his song is about the outlaw fights injustice but is overwhelmed and hunted down, regrets loosing his battling companions and would love to rise again with new forces. For me it's both sad and uplifting song. Edited by Cristi - January 08 2021 at 18:04 |
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 19:06 |
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1) Tom Rapp - Fourth Day Of July. Interesting folk piece prog-related, with a simple but sophysticated arrangement, and an atmosphere relaxed but only in the surface. Good song. 2) Cheryl Wheeler: beautiful voice, but she doesnt sing!  It's a strange song, an electric rap-folk?OUT OF COMPETITION Charlie King's song: oh well, here we are in an field between John Denver and Phil Ochs. The quintessence of American folk.
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Thank you for your thoughts. Rapp does have a very pleasant voice, usually, although in his early days he did do a few ones more in this kind of style, on other recordings. I love his way with lyrics. Cheryl Wheeler indeed does have a gorgeous voice. In this one, she sort of used a rap-folk form to present her thoughts as they came to her while she was driving when she heard the news of that particular shooting. She usually vacillates between really funny songs and really serious, beautiful ones, with some very political pieces like this one. The Charlie King song I knew from several folk singers in the Santa Cruz area during my time there in the late 70's/early 80's, they would cover this one, especially poignant since so many of them also protested along the lines of the "No More Nukes," concert, with the Diablo Canyon Power Plant right down the road, in San Luis Obispo County. All three of my selections were indeed, very American in nature.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 18:28 |
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1) Tom Rapp - Fourth Day Of July. Interesting folk piece prog-related, with a simple but sophysticated arrangement, and an atmosphere relaxed but only in the surface. Good song. 2) Cheryl Wheeler: beautiful voice, but she doesnt sing! It's a strange song, an electric rap-folk?OUT OF COMPETITION Charlie King's song: oh well, here we are in an field between John Denver and Phil Ochs. The quintessence of American folk.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 18:11 |
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Well, I dont know if I prefer the studio version or this live version, anyway I appreciate your choice: two (the first is by Roy Harper) melodic folk songs conducted by the acoustic guitar and the vocals, a choice genuine, simple and direct, based on the beauty of the melodies. Contender.
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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jamesbaldwin
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 18:04 |
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Strange combination between the first and the second piece but the second is the best (for my tastes) that I have listened until now. Strong contender. |
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Snicolette
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 18:00 |
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First thoughts on Page Three Entries:
Cristi: New
Model Army “I Love The World” Begins
with a long fade-in, this is a pretty hard-hitting rock song. This one seems to be protesting the
concretization of the world, so an ecological protest song, maybe with a bit of
anti-nuclear war thrown in, at least from what I can gather from the
lyrics. Olympic '64 Dorin Liviu Zaharia “Cantic
De Haiduc” This one sounds like an older
recording, basic rock ensemble, but with some organ underneath. I can’t find a translation for the lyrics,
but looking up the band, they also did a rock opera, with lyrics by Dante
Alighieri and Rabindranath Tagore, which would likely be very interesting (and
confirmed my take on this being a much earlier recording that that of New Model
Army.
George: Algiers “Dispossession” This one is more of a soul piece, really enjoy the vocalist and the chorus is gorgeous. This is a protest against the dispossession of minorities in America, very spirited piece, the choral singers are in a gospel vein. I really like this one a lot! David Baerwald “Got No Shotgun Hydrahead Octopus Blues” Here’s another hard-hitting social commentary piece, this guy pulls no punches. Rough-edged voice, snaggy organ and ragged guitars embellish this song. Bravo to both of these. (out of competition) YG featuring G Eazy & Macklemore “FDT” Gotta say, I quite agree! Anti-45 rap, stating all the reasons why I quite agree. More so than ever, today. Lewian: Scala 3 “Kein Ende” There is a lightness in the music to this, and in the singer’s voice, which belies the lyrics, I am sure it is sarcastic in nature to be so. Nonetheless, it is indeed chilling were it to be taken seriously (which I am sure some, might, sadly). It is a little difficult to discern the intent of the piece, at least to me, so I do hope it is indeed sarcastic. Cpt. Kirk & “Racist Friend” This is done in a sing-song style, with heavy bass, drums and guitars at a slow pace. This one definitely leaves no doubt as to what they are suggestion one do. (out of competition) Extrabrei “Polizisten” This one has an ominous feel as well as the previous one did, with bass and drums accompanying the vocalist before crunching guitars and keys come in. This one is about the ubiquitous presence of police, always watching. Suitably dark for the subject matter, with the chorus being stridently sung as a warning to all. |
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The Anders
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 13:03 |
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My out of competition song is Gnags - Burhøns (Caged chickens), 1979 Lyrics and English translation: http://docdroid.net/fHHALtD/burhoens-pdf Edited by The Anders - January 07 2021 at 18:00 |
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 11:13 |
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If there's time ,,,,my second choice...or maybe first ;)
Live version with a nice folk edge to it. |
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suitkees
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 09:50 |
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In the mean-time I added a second song to my original post: Têtes Raides/Noir Désir - L'iditenté (no, I didn't misspell, read the post ;).
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suitkees
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 09:48 |
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^ Actually, it's not odd at all. This is all copyrighted material we offer here and it is just how copyright licensing works: a license is often restricted to a specific geographical (or linguistic) region. Outside of that region one will need another licence... or something will just not be visible. The video doesn't work for me either, but the one Cristi found does (thanks!).
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 04:13 |
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That's the right song, different video though. All very odd!!
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Cristi
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 04:09 |
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I did is that it?
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 04:07 |
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Are you able to Google that video on YouTube?
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Cristi
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 04:05 |
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I don't know. I've been asked in this polls to re-post throughout the polls. I wonder if others have the same problem.
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 03:54 |
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Leon Rosselson - Plan. Could it be a regional thing??
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Cristi
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 03:53 |
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Not working at all. try another video/another link, please what's the artist/song?
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Posted: January 07 2021 at 03:48 |
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Both videos added in exactly the same way, so why one works and one doesn't, I have no idea!
This is the url - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TlFwX01rk4 |
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Snicolette wrote:
And I like both your introductions / contextualizations (Nick and Lorenzo).