Are drugs less common in prog?

 yeah? name a "drug" that isn't manufactured, legal or illegal besides pot

that comes to us right out of the ground.

 heroine, cocaine require intensive processing, as does meth ect.

 manufacturing LSD requires a knowledge of chemistry.

 while cannabis contains compounds, such as THC, they're not sythisized.

   isolating and synthisizing compounds allows the phamaceutical companies to

 file for patent.

 the reason pot is illegal in the US has nothing to w/ health concerns-

see tobacco, alchohol, which can be controlled and taxed, the root of the problem.

k

 

 

  oh, the scandal of it all!

  we should clarify for the conservatives that kurt cobain was "on drugs"....

 yes smoking pot doesn't qualify. .

 also, drugs are manufactured. cannabis is an herb.

 kirk

 

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BaldFriede wrote: Guru Guru guitarist Roland Schaeffer answered the question of "Elektrolurch" Mani Neumeier "Was bedeutet eigentlich der Name Guru Guru?" ("What does the name Guru Guru mean, by the way?"; this is one of the questions the Elektrolurch asks the band) with "Täglich fit mit 2 Gramm sh*t" (a little difficult to translate into English, but it is as if he said "an apple a day keeps the doctor away", only replacing "apple" with "2 grams of hashish") on the album "Guru Guru Live". And they announced they would now play the "silent trumpet" on stage in one concert, after which someone with a trumpet appeared on stage, and into the horn they had stuffed a gigantic joint. They all took a deep draw, and then they gave the trumpet to the audience. I know this from tales of my brother, who saw them on the 1976 or 1977 Brain Festival in Essen (don't know the exact year at the moment). Also they definitely didn't have a track named "Der LSD-Marsch" ("The LSD-March") on their first album for nothing. Gong, Hawkwind and Amon Düül 2 were excessive drug users too. Ash Ra Tempel and the Cosmic Jokers (basically the same band) were befriended with LSD-Guru Timothy Leary, which certainly says something about them too. Let's face it: Most of the early Krautrock is heavily drug-influenced.

Thx for the info Freide, I didn't knew all this 

Yes the early Krautrock is very drug-influenced and I'm not saying that all of them did drugs but even if bands like Amon Düül II would come out to the light and say that they were against drugs I wouldn't believe it one second.

King of Loss wrote: It depends on the band  But I'm 100000000% percent sure that Yes, King Crimson and Jethro Tull were big acid treepers!

I read in the Relayer Remastered Edition booklet that Yes were staunch vegetarians during the 70s, mainly for health benefits. So I highly doubt they did drugs. If they didn't, good for them, it proves that freaking awesome music doesn't have to be chemically infleunced.
 

Gaston wrote: Less common by the prog makers or the prog listeners? I think you know the answer to that. Personally I think bands like Floyd actually just MADE music for people on drugs. I read A Saucerful of Secrets a while back and it stated that Rog and Nicky only really drank, but Dave and Rick were smokers. I think they also stated that none of them did acid or heavys while performing as "you couldn't possibly manipulate the tech and instruments in that state" or something to that effect... And as a musician who has taken drugs and tried to play, I agree. Stick to the liquid courage. Also, there's a reference in Pompei where the Adrien asks Dave if he thought the Floyd were "a very drug oriented band" and Dave's like "We're not" (obviously stoned at the time, if you look at his bloodshot squints) "you can trust us"..... Gaston

Yeah I always got a kick out of that one too!

Actually, there are very few clips in that movie (in the studio portions at least) where Dave DOESN'T look absolutely stoned out of his gourd.

I was going to make a topic like this soon. I know for a fact that Keith Emerson did speed, as my dad's old high school hippy music teacher, a classically trained pianist, hung out with Emerson and did speed with him (he opened up to my dad apparently, once he found out of his love for ELP.) I think it is pretty clear that some Yes members did hallucinagenic drugs. All of Tales seems like a freaking acid trip to me. KC is harder. I know Fripp didnt do drugs (or at least said so). Genesis seemed like they HAD to be into weed at least. Listening to Trespass through through the Lamb just give me the feeling that they used at least mild drugs like weed. I wouldnt be surprised is some of them (like Gabriel and Hackett) used acid or mescaline. I will admit that 70-74 Genesis is some of the best music ever made to listen to while stoned. The other famed prog bands are also iffy to me, but I am pretty sure about Yes, ELP, and Genesis.

BePinkTheater wrote: jsut as much pot smoking going on as in my grandmas kitchen

Definitely not.
Drugs are just as commonplace in prog as in any other kind of music.

Oddly enough, Pink floyd did very little drugs( witht the exception of syd barret)

In my Nick mason book " Inisde and out, a personal history of pink floyd"

he says that they only did drugs in their early stuff. But after sauserful of secrets, there was jsut as much pot smoking going on as in my grandmas kitchen

Yes on dope...yeah!!

Have you seen the YESYEARS Video at the Tormato studio session recordings? Chris is smoking a big hand-made cigarrete.

I don´t think Jon is on coke, but he is part the Opium Movement. On stage at the 35TH Anniversary he joked about his remembrance of Ganga (Jamaican Hashis) when they originally recorded "Long Distance..."

On 97 he also joked that the "And You and I" ideas came "...out of the smoke..." making reference that he was smoking weed.

What about Wakeman... a confessed alcoholic.

I think Bill Bruford is the only clean member of the Yes team

I´ve seen some video interviews of Tony Banks, and he is continuosly sniffin´(probably he is always cold! )

Gong, Hawkwind, Sub, Guru Guru, Clearlight, Master´s Aprentice, etc. are heavily drug oriented proclaimed super heroes, but I think they aren´t the final answer on a trippy way. In fact those extreme tones sometimes are bad trippin´!!!

OMMADAWN and OLIAS OF SUNHILLOW are tremendously trippy... specially when you are clean..  

PEACE