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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2016 at 03:22
Right now I'm listening to the futuristic spacerock of Metromania
A very great synth-oriented album. It's also one of my favorite recordsleeves of all times. I can imagina Frank playing guitar on the roof, all futuristic and sh*t...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2016 at 03:20
I just looked on Discogs now, apparently the CD of `Destination' is long out of print (and going for quite a bit of money), but there does seem to several vendors selling cheapo `Unofficial' bootlegs of it for a few bucks.

The band should probably jump on that by putting out a proper reissue.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2016 at 03:14
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

King, I think I always defended the programmed drums on that one because I felt it gave the music a really robotic/sci-fi kind of sound, which is perfectly appropriate for that band, as it's such a defining aspect of their music and words!

Well, that's my theory and I'm sticking with it!

It's certainly better than `Destination', which is probably a reliable hard rock/AOR album, BUT there's not a lot of the traditional Eloy elements on that one. I think it's the only Eloy album I don't physically own a copy of (mind you, if I came across it I'd snap it up in a instant for completist reasons!)

I'm pretty sure `The Tides Return Forever' was much better, although from memory (I probably haven't listened to it in about almost fifteen years by this point) the female vocalists on that one weren't particularly good?

The female vocals on The Tides Return Forever are the best ever. :D

Destination is not really a hardrock/aor album. Most people refer to Performance as being the most pop-rock oriented Eloy-album.
I think Destination is the most progmetal influenced album, and features the first Jeanne D'Arc-song.
Also Destination features the beautiful Eclipse of Mankind. And some great flute-work on a couple of songs.
Destination isn't all bad. It has some crincheworthy moments (Silent Revolution comes to mind).

Ra and Destination are both the lesser albums in Franks' long career, but they both have great moments. Maybe combined (ignoring some tracks) they can form one great album.

The Tides Return Forever is a return to forms. And the promise was delivered with Ocean 2: The Answer!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2016 at 02:59
I finally dedicated some time to put new music in the car a few weeks ago. I copied Metromania and it's epic driving music, especially this one Cool

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2016 at 02:50
King, I think I always defended the programmed drums on that one because I felt it gave the music a really robotic/sci-fi kind of sound, which is perfectly appropriate for that band, as it's such a defining aspect of their music and words!

Well, that's my theory and I'm sticking with it!

It's certainly better than `Destination', which is probably a reliable hard rock/AOR album, BUT there's not a lot of the traditional Eloy elements on that one. I think it's the only Eloy album I don't physically own a copy of (mind you, if I came across it I'd snap it up in a instant for completist reasons!)

I'm pretty sure `The Tides Return Forever' was much better, although from memory (I probably haven't listened to it in about almost fifteen years by this point) the female vocalists on that one weren't particularly good?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2016 at 02:42
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:


Oh, and does no-one else love `Ra' except me?!
 
Ra isn't bad at all.
I don't like the falsetto voice, Frank suddenly started to use.
But I love some really spacey parts on the album, although the drums were poorly programmed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2016 at 02:30
I don't know if I'd consider `Wild Geese' much worse than `Visionary', Tom. Now there was a tired dreary album. Just like a pale imitation of a bunch of better Eloy stuff, and it also felt kind of half finished, or perhaps just lacking much in the way of inspiration to begin with.

I'm certain they've got a new album on the way in the new year, but unless I'm wrong, I really wish they had gone out on `Ocean 2', which was absolutely glorious, and a seriously good album for an `older' prog band at that point. It's pretty much on the level of their classics to my ears.

Oh, and does no-one else love `Ra' except me?!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2016 at 02:14
^ I'm sure there's double kick in Shadow And Light (Performance).
Yep - Jurgen.
The project Ego On The Rocks (Jurgen and Detlef) produced another great album in Acid In Wounderland.
I believe Klaus Peter Matziol has a solo album from the early 80's.
And the weakest 'ELOY' album is the O.S.T. Codename : Wildgeese. It's just Matze, Folberth and Arkona. The movie is pretty nuts - Klaus Kinski, need I say more....?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2016 at 01:41
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Randow also played on an album by the band SAXON !!
 
Yes I know.
Randow was really a heavy metal drummer. There were already traces of proto-metal drumming on Inside and Floating.
He played in more metalbands I believe.
And on Metromania het played some double kick bassdrums on Follow the Light.
Also on the Cronicles albums he plays more heavy than before.
 
I prefer the playful style of Jürgen Rosenthal though. And of course Bodo Schöpf.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 22:15
Randow also played on an album by the band SAXON !!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 13:06
I love most of Eloy's albums. The only ones I don't like much are Silent Cries and Planets. 

Floating and Inside are a couple of my all time favorite albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 12:56
Somewhat overlooked from the Hannover Germany Rock scene is the Warlock project
by English man Jon Symon aka Rasputin (he lived in Hannover).
 
He made a Prog Rock album called "Warlock - Memories Of A White Magician" which featured
Matziol, Schmidtchen and McGilivray from Eloy.
 
There is also a live album of that record (with almost the same cover) that features him backed
by Jane musicians (the Lady Jane formation).
 
If you like early Eloy you might also like this Swiss band (Magic Spell)
 
Fritz Randow also played in Jane (at a later phase)
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 11:03
^ Correct on all counts, and my favourite Jane period, coz it's reminiscent of Eloy, a harder edged, bluesy Eloy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 08:16
Manfred is at least on the "Live at Home" album  and some Studio ones (1 or 2)
at that time. "Between Heaven and Hell" and "Age of Madness" I think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 08:01
I thought Between Heaven and Hell was a great album by Jane
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 07:59
I actually know Jane very well. used to listen to them a lot, because they sound like Floating and Inside-era Eloy.
 
Didn't know they shared the same organist. Maybe that's why they have the same sound. Great, now I feel like listening to some Jane again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 07:50
Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

 The early years featured organist Manfred Wieczorke, wich I have never seen in any other band. He was okay, really psychedelic, he fit the old sound very well, but I prefer Hannes or Detlev.
 
Manfred joined "Jane" a well known progressive Hardrock band after he left Eloy.
 
He also had a band called Firehorse which made just one Album.
 
He also recorded a lot with Detlef Schmidtchen (also Eloy) and made some solo Albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 07:16
It's also the musicians that count.
 
Eloy had the a few of the best drummers in prog: Jürgen Rosenthal, Fritz Randow and Jim McGilivray, whereas Jürgen was the most inventive one.

Also Klaus-Peter Matziol is one of the best bassist I have heard in prog. And he was almost on any Eloy album.

As for the keyboardist; Detlev Schmidtgen and Hannes Folberth are amongst the best keyboardist I know. Michael Gerlach is okay, but not as superb as Detlev and Hannes. They really brought that spacey sound to Eloy.

The early years featured organist Manfred Wieczorke, wich I have never seen in any other band. He was okay, really psychedelic, he fit the old sound very well, but I prefer Hannes or Detlev.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 07:13
Except Dawn and Performance, I own all their albums from 1973 to 1984
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2016 at 07:09
Amazing band with 6 great albums in a row, from Dawn thru Time to Turn, with a few others outside that period that were great (Inside, Ocean 2).  Spacey and symphonic at once.  While they at turns sounded like Tull, Floyd, Alan Parsons, Yes, and BJH, they nonetheless had their own imprint on the style.  Artwork certainly helped fulfill the fantasy.

My personal favorites are Inside, Dawn, Colours, Planets, and Time to Turn.  Maybe 2 inferior tracks on the 4 albums.   While I enjoy Ocean and Silent Cries, Ocean is a bit too sprawling and Silent Cries a bit too Floydian
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