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Posted: December 16 2016 at 03:22
Right now I'm listening to the futuristic spacerock of MetromaniaA very great synth-oriented album. It's also one of my favorite recordsleeves of all times. I can imagina Frank playing guitar on the roof, all futuristic and sh*t...
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Posted: December 16 2016 at 03:20
I just looked on Discogs now, apparently the CD of `Destination' is long out of print (and going for quite a bit of money), but there does seem to several vendors selling cheapo `Unofficial' bootlegs of it for a few bucks.
The band should probably jump on that by putting out a proper reissue.
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Posted: December 16 2016 at 03:14
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
King, I think I always defended the programmed drums on that one because I felt it gave the music a really robotic/sci-fi kind of sound, which is perfectly appropriate for that band, as it's such a defining aspect of their music and words!
Well, that's my theory and I'm sticking with it!
It's certainly better than `Destination', which is probably a reliable hard rock/AOR album, BUT there's not a lot of the traditional Eloy elements on that one. I think it's the only Eloy album I don't physically own a copy of (mind you, if I came across it I'd snap it up in a instant for completist reasons!)
I'm pretty sure `The Tides Return Forever' was much better, although from memory (I probably haven't listened to it in about almost fifteen years by this point) the female vocalists on that one weren't particularly good?
The female vocals on The Tides Return Forever are the best ever. :D
Destination is not really a hardrock/aor album. Most people refer to Performance as being the most pop-rock oriented Eloy-album. I think Destination is the most progmetal influenced album, and features the first Jeanne D'Arc-song. Also Destination features the beautiful Eclipse of Mankind. And some great flute-work on a couple of songs. Destination isn't all bad. It has some crincheworthy moments (Silent Revolution comes to mind).
Ra and Destination are both the lesser albums in Franks' long career, but they both have great moments. Maybe combined (ignoring some tracks) they can form one great album.
The Tides Return Forever is a return to forms. And the promise was delivered with Ocean 2: The Answer!
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Posted: December 16 2016 at 02:50
King, I think I always defended the programmed drums on that one because I felt it gave the music a really robotic/sci-fi kind of sound, which is perfectly appropriate for that band, as it's such a defining aspect of their music and words!
Well, that's my theory and I'm sticking with it!
It's certainly better than `Destination', which is probably a reliable hard rock/AOR album, BUT there's not a lot of the traditional Eloy elements on that one. I think it's the only Eloy album I don't physically own a copy of (mind you, if I came across it I'd snap it up in a instant for completist reasons!)
I'm pretty sure `The Tides Return Forever' was much better, although from memory (I probably haven't listened to it in about almost fifteen years by this point) the female vocalists on that one weren't particularly good?
Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - December 16 2016 at 02:51
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Posted: December 16 2016 at 02:30
I don't know if I'd consider `Wild Geese' much worse than `Visionary', Tom. Now there was a tired dreary album. Just like a pale imitation of a bunch of better Eloy stuff, and it also felt kind of half finished, or perhaps just lacking much in the way of inspiration to begin with.
I'm certain they've got a new album on the way in the new year, but unless I'm wrong, I really wish they had gone out on `Ocean 2', which was absolutely glorious, and a seriously good album for an `older' prog band at that point. It's pretty much on the level of their classics to my ears.
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Posted: December 16 2016 at 02:14
^ I'm sure there's double kick in Shadow And Light (Performance). Yep - Jurgen. The project Ego On The Rocks (Jurgen and Detlef) produced another great album in Acid In Wounderland. I believe Klaus Peter Matziol has a solo album from the early 80's. And the weakest 'ELOY' album is the O.S.T. Codename : Wildgeese. It's just Matze, Folberth and Arkona. The movie is pretty nuts - Klaus Kinski, need I say more....?
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Posted: December 15 2016 at 07:50
Kingsnake wrote:
The early years featured organist Manfred Wieczorke, wich I have never seen in any other band. He was okay, really psychedelic, he fit the old sound very well, but I prefer Hannes or Detlev.
Manfred joined "Jane" a well known progressive Hardrock band after he left Eloy.
He also had a band called Firehorse which made just one Album.
He also recorded a lot with Detlef Schmidtchen (also Eloy) and made some solo Albums.
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Posted: December 15 2016 at 07:16
It's also the musicians that count.
Eloy had the a few of the best drummers in prog: Jürgen Rosenthal, Fritz Randow and Jim McGilivray, whereas Jürgen was the most inventive one.
Also Klaus-Peter Matziol is one of the best bassist I have heard in prog. And he was almost on any Eloy album.
As for the keyboardist; Detlev Schmidtgen and Hannes Folberth are amongst the best keyboardist I know. Michael Gerlach is okay, but not as superb as Detlev and Hannes. They really brought that spacey sound to Eloy.
The early years featured organist Manfred Wieczorke, wich I have never seen in any other band. He was okay, really psychedelic, he fit the old sound very well, but I prefer Hannes or Detlev.
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Posted: December 15 2016 at 07:09
Amazing band with 6 great albums in a row, from Dawn thru Time to Turn, with a few others outside that period that were great (Inside, Ocean 2). Spacey and symphonic at once. While they at turns sounded like Tull, Floyd, Alan Parsons, Yes, and BJH, they nonetheless had their own imprint on the style. Artwork certainly helped fulfill the fantasy.
My personal favorites are Inside, Dawn, Colours, Planets, and Time to Turn. Maybe 2 inferior tracks on the 4 albums. While I enjoy Ocean and Silent Cries, Ocean is a bit too sprawling and Silent Cries a bit too Floydian
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