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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Ah, thanks BaldJean & SpaciousMind for clearing up the Necronomi-confusion. Tongue

Glad you were able to get a Necronomi-confirmation. LOL
I'm just glad I don't have to say the name out loud, unlike this reporter who can't pronounce "Phenomenon" Smile



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^ Ah, thanks BaldJean & SpaciousMind for clearing up the Necronomi-confusion. Tongue

Glad you were able to get a Necronomi-confirmation. LOL
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

"Tips zum Selbstmord" means "Advice for Suicide". actually in the plural form in the original German, but in English "advice" does not have a plural. also mark that this album was made before the German orthography reform; after the reform took place "Tip" (for "hint, advice) is written "Tipp" (plural "Tipps") in German.

Friede and I actually don't follow the new orthography rules completely; it did in our opinion go too far. we are definitely not writing "Philosophie" like "Filosofie", as the orthography reform requires. we actually use the "ph" instead of an "f" for all German words with Greek origin. this even includes the word "Elefant", which stems from the Greek "ἐλέφᾱς" ("elephas") for "ivory", though the last time this word was spelled with a "ph" instead of an "f" was in the 19th century

Hi Jean,

I am still fluent in German, unfortunately through lack of writing it much over recent years my written grammar has become worse and worse as the years pass.  So I am absolutely certain that you have me beat on the Grammar :)  I used to have that problem in reverse when I first moved to England using f's instead of PH's at school until I finally figured it all out.  You know sch's and sh's etc etc

Last time I was in Germany was 3 years ago visiting family and friends in Osnabrueck.

I am not a native speaker of German; I lived in the USA for the first 24 years of my life. but I have been living in Germany for almost 28 years now and had the best of teachers in my wife Friede who grew up bilingually


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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

"Tips zum Selbstmord" means "Advice for Suicide". actually in the plural form in the original German, but in English "advice" does not have a plural. also mark that this album was made before the German orthography reform; after the reform took place "Tip" (for "hint, advice) is written "Tipp" (plural "Tipps") in German.

Friede and I actually don't follow the new orthography rules completely; it did in our opinion go too far. we are definitely not writing "Philosophie" like "Filosofie", as the orthography reform requires. we actually use the "ph" instead of an "f" for all German words with Greek origin. this even includes the word "Elefant", which stems from the Greek "ἐλέφᾱς" ("elephas") for "ivory", though the last time this word was spelled with a "ph" instead of an "f" was in the 19th century

Hi Jean,

I am still fluent in German, unfortunately through lack of writing it much over recent years my written grammar has become worse and worse as the years pass.  So I am absolutely certain that you have me beat on the Grammar :)  I used to have that problem in reverse when I first moved to England using f's instead of PH's at school until I finally figured it all out.  You know sch's and sh's etc etc

Last time I was in Germany was 3 years ago visiting family and friends in Osnabrueck.
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^ I'll also be adding Amon Düül II (complete with umlauts) to my second A-Z list, following your earlier suggestion. Thumbs Up 

In the meantime, it's about time I made a serious start with adding album links to this revamped blog, so without further agitation, here's the first album from the first band. Smile


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Originally posted by Spaciousmind Spaciousmind wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

for "N" I suggest Necronomicon. good name for a band, by the way; I am a huge Lovecraft fan
I like H.P. Lovecraft too, but according to Wikipedia, Necronomicon are a modern Thrash Metal band, so it doesn't sound like my kind of music. Tongue

The Necromicon I have from 1972 Tips zum Selbstmord is not Thrash Metal.  That's a different Band referenced in Wikipedia.  The 1972 is a mix of Krautrock/Heavy Prog.

Sorry spellt wrongly by me its Necronomicon. Tips zum Selbstmord.

"Tips zum Selbstmord" means "Advice for Suicide". actually in the plural form in the original German, but in English "advice" does not have a plural. also mark that this album was made before the German orthography reform; after the reform took place "Tip" (for "hint, advice) is written "Tipp" (plural "Tipps") in German.

Friede and I actually don't follow the new orthography rules completely; it did in our opinion go too far. we are definitely not writing "Philosophie" like "Filosofie", as the orthography reform requires. we actually use the "ph" instead of an "f" for all German words with Greek origin. this even includes the word "Elefant", which stems from the Greek "ἐλέφᾱς" ("elephas") for "ivory", though the last time this word was spelled with a "ph" instead of an "f" was in the 19th century


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^ Ah, thanks BaldJean & SpaciousMind for clearing up the Necronomi-confusion. Tongue

The 1970's Krautrock band IS my kind of music. I'll add them to my second A-Z list. Thumbs Up


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the band is in the archives under "Krautrock"; here a link to the entry:


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

for "N" I suggest Necronomicon. good name for a band, by the way; I am a huge Lovecraft fan
I like H.P. Lovecraft too, but according to Wikipedia, Necronomicon are a modern Thrash Metal band, so it doesn't sound like my kind of music. Tongue

The Necromicon I have from 1972 Tips zum Selbstmord is not Thrash Metal.  That's a different Band referenced in Wikipedia.  The 1972 is a mix of Krautrock/Heavy Prog.

Sorry spellt wrongly by me its Necronomicon. Tips zum Selbstmord.


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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

for "N" I suggest Necronomicon. good name for a band, by the way; I am a huge Lovecraft fan
I like H.P. Lovecraft too, but according to Wikipedia, Necronomicon are a modern Thrash Metal band, so it doesn't sound like my kind of music. Tongue
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for "N" I suggest Necronomicon. good name for a band, by the way; I am a huge Lovecraft fan


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For M i suggest Message, their sophomore album its a masterpiece!

Great recommendation! I've already included Message in the first A-Z list at the beginning of this thread. Thumbs Up
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For M i suggest Message, their sophomore album its a masterpiece!
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I suggest Liliental for "L"

Thanks for the recommendation, Jean. It's a pity they only made one album, as Liliental sounds like my kind of music and they're from the classic Krautrock era too, so I'll remember to include them in my second A-Z list. After all, I still have Lucifer's Friend still to look forward to in the first A-Z list. I've only ever heard their first album but that was donkeys' years ago. I remember it was a devil of a good album though. Smile
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Originally posted by tigerfeet tigerfeet wrote:

In any case, I had not seen this thread before so it perked me up. 

May i suggest for I - Ibliss - this track is quite lively. (This was the only Album they produced and the other tracks are a mix of prog/jazz fusion/kraut)

I just discovered today that Ikarus are on the Prog Line channel, so I'll still get to hear the album even though I've now replaced them with Ibliss on here. Smile
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I suggest Liliental for "L"


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Big "L" for Lard Free
They're From France
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Kraan for "K". suggested album "Andy Nogger"


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I propose JeGong for J:


JEGONG is the amalgamation of two distinct forces within post-rock and heavy music, Dahm Majuri Cipolla, drummer of MONO (Japan) & Watter, and Reto Mäder of Sum Of R. Together the pair is readying their debut longplayer I for release on October 20th via Berlin-based Pelagic Records, helmed by members of beloved post-metallers The Ocean. Bursting with new ideas while tipping their hat to legends of yore, the duo’s energies focus on the crossroads between Krautrock, ambient and post-rock, bringing to mind acts ranging from Ash Ra Tempel, GAS, Cluster, Mogwai and more while blazing trails with their electronic-forward approach. 

JEGONG, named in tribute to a track by Cluster’s Dieter Moebius, was formed by shared musical influence and a friendship developed during a European tour when Sum Of R and Cipolla’s band Watter intersected during the former’s routing towards the highly respected European festival Roadburn. During their encounters, the pair bonded over the musical output of the early 70s, specifically the intersection of electronic music and boundary-pushing experimentalism found in Krautrock that gave rise to classic acts like Can, Faust, Tangerine Dream, Neu! and more. In this spirit, if not also musically, is where the soul of the JEGONG project lies– melodic, genre-pushing, fascinating and honoring the past while looking toward the future. 

The classic Krautrock movement may provide the bedrock for all that is JEGONG, but the project is far from a “worship” band. Instead of aping core elements of the movement, the duo used the style as a launch pad to move into uncharted realms– thereby conjuring the original, truly bold spirit of the style. The result is a record without inhibition– delving deep into psychedelia, ambient, repetition, post-rock and even elements of dystopian sci-fi soundtracks like Blade Runner and Metropolis during the LP’s 70+ minute runtime. "With JeGong we don't want to copy the Krautrock style,” reiterates Mäder. “We see our project more as a creative playground to celebrate the playful and experimental approach from earlier Krautrock using organic sounds and textures from analogue sounds to explore mood.” 

Created in the tail end of 2019, the LP was an exercise in social distancing with Reto Mäder recording all of the instrumentation at Hinterzimmer in Bern, Switzerland and Dahm Majuri Cipolla adding in the drums at BC Studio in NYC with Martin Bisi (Swans, Sonic Youth), where it was also partially mixed. With additional mixing and mastering taking place in Finland with Jaakko Viitalähde (Oranssi Pazuzu, Dark Buddha Rising), the wholly remote record presented a challenge in creating a collaborative effort while separated by half a world at every turn. “It was pretty interesting doing the tracks separated by many many miles between Switzerland and the U.S.,” recalls Cipolla. “For this particular collection of songs Reto would send me these ideas and I would come up with rhythmic patterns to fit. We wanted a combination of atmospheric sounds/progressions over rhythmic pulses and minimal, and sometimes repetitive, drumming.” And though the pair never shared a room, that also had it’s advantages as well. “You pay much more attention to sound as a common language,” explains Mäder. “Music takes on different forms according to the conditions in which it was recorded– whether that’s rooms, distance and time. We’re excited to also showcase another form of our songs– bringing them to the live stage." 

Consisting of 14 tracks, the debut effort from JeGong is emblematic of the adventurous spirit at the dawn of electronic music converging with the wide-eyed wonder toward experimentation found at the height of the psychedelic movement. Using processed guitars and heavily manipulated synths, Mäder creates vast atmospheric architecture in which Cipolla’s tasteful yet propulsive percussion adds a backbone and the unexpected twist. The combination pays homage to the greats of yesteryear while adding influence from artists ranging from Grouper to Sunn 0))) to Zombi. JEGONG not only tips its hat to the Krautrock era, but also reimagines the movement with new approaches and updated ideas. “To me, it’s about our mutual love for 70’s German music without being blatant about it,” comments Cipolla..”It’s a tribute but it’s done our way– honoring these heroes in the only way we can.” 
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^ I like it. I've swapped Ikarus for Ibliss. Thumbs Up
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