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Snow Dog
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Posted: October 23 2010 at 05:41 |
Roterstern wrote:
I've listened just "The Wake", that's the only album of IQ that I got. I've listened it through many times and still I got an impression that it's one of the most boring records that Ive ever had. Perhaps my impression is wrong and I got the "wrong" album, so shall I try some other their works? Or they are all like that? |
From waht I remember thats a pretty good album. Maybe IQ just doesn't click with you. Maybe try a more recent album like Dark Matter.
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Posted: October 23 2010 at 05:34 |
I've listened just "The Wake", that's the only album of IQ that I got. I've listened it through many times and still I got an impression that it's one of the most boring records that Ive ever had. Perhaps my impression is wrong and I got the "wrong" album, so shall I try some other their works? Or they are all like that?
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richardh
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Posted: October 23 2010 at 03:15 |
^ In recent years my favourite album. The only other release I would match against it is Martin Orford's 'The Old Road'.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 17:55 |
This thread escaped me, nburied under a lot of dross i suspect
I have to say Frequency is one of the greatest prog albums I have had the pleasure to hear! Do you agree with my review?
"The first atomic bomb was dropped on a military base called Hiroshima...."
"Frequency" begins with a voice over speaking of a nuclear assault. The intro is unbelievable! The impressive music is beautifully executed, Mike Holmes' clean soaring guitars, chugging riffs like Led Zeppelin, ambient sustained mellotron and keyboard pads by Mark Westworth, with expressive, creative drumming from Andy Edwards, the bass by John Jowitt is played virtuoso style as well. The vocals of Peter Nicholls are clean, inviting and uplifting, sounding somewhat like Neal Morse at times. "Frequency" is an incredible followup to 2004's "Dark Matter". This is marginally the better album of the two, though "Dark Matter" was certainly a very good album. There is more innovation and stronger compositions on this conceptual work. Due to the strong melodies throughout this album it is a genuine grower, and you are likely to love each track the more you listen to it, nothing on it is a throwaway or filler, it is all solid prog at its best. I heard it three times in a row and eventually succumbed to the fact that this, as far as I am concerned, is one of the most uplifting prog albums of recent years and I rate it as a masterpiece of neo prog.
Frequency is one of the best IQ numbers, with solid time signature changes and a positive sound with special effects and melancholy keyboards. Mike Holmes' guitar riffs are dynamic and the lead breaks are emotive and Pink Floydian. Nicholls' warm vocals spell out the main themes of the album: "Before I was undiscovered, When I was invincible, Nobody could kill the silence And probably no one will again, The future was unrelated, Alternatives all pursued, The lives that got separated When others were split in two." It is a brilliant composition and unforgettable.
Life Support begins with beautiful piano and sustained pads and then those warm emotional vocals chime in. This is so uplifting, and reminiscent of Transatlantic. The lyrics are reflecting on life's trials and how to overcome. The mood changes as a thunderous sound is heard and it builds to a crescendo then a lead guitar swoops over as drums keep a steady metrical pattern. Westworth's spacey synth is alienating and futuristic, similar to the type heard in electronic music. It is a lengthy instrumental and as good as it gets. The synths merge with majestic guitar leads. A very melodic motif repeats in various forms and locks into your head. It is absolute bliss when the band are in full flight. The wind effects are airy, ethereal and haunting towards the end. I adored this track the first time I heard it and it gets better with each listen.
Stronger than Friction, an ironic take on Stranger Than Fiction, begins with a melodic guitar riff, and the positive vocals of Nicholls harmonise about ways of living "until our worlds collide" . At 3:50 the heavy beat halts and an ambient mellotron soaked pad sizzles along as the vocals become softer and the whole song becomes a "turning tide" . I like the fast riff at 6:40 where the time sig changes completely again and the vocals are more aggressive. The sporadic bass and drums are off kilter and there is a lilting keyboard and ascending lead guitar break. One of the true highlights of the album and in fact the first 3 tracks are prime example of Neo Prog at its best.
One Fatal Mistake is a melancholic ballad, a gentle soothing sound that warms you up. The lyrics are encouraging and lift up the spirits; "Imagine all you could have been, Eventually you would have seen, The wanderlust, And all you dared to dream of, If ever you make one fatal mistake, You broke me, you have no idea, In darkness I see more than hear, Impossible, even I can say, Many would have walked away." There is always a ray of hope injected in to the lyrics that talk of how to overcome despair and difficult circumstances. The melody is very pleasant to the ears and musically there is a lot on offer here especially the transfixing guitars and keyboards.
Ryker Skies features thick buzzsaw synth and flowing acoustics. I first heard this on a Prognosis CD from the Prog magazine and it stood out as much as it does here. Once again the atmosphere is ambient textures of melancholy reflection. The lyrics are emotive, "I'm reeling, fighting for breath, Running on empty, A fortress carved out of steel, Black and surrounding, No other survivors, the walls without end, So where have I come to?" A very strong bass and drum beat with crashing cymbals kicks in. The lead break is replete with bends and pitched picking. The next section of vocals sound like Ayreon's deep robotic effect voices on "Universal Migrator"; "Welcome, hero, to Ryker Skies, Where all your hopes are stored, You can leave responsibilities in ruins at the door". The mellotron is ever present as the cleaner vocals of Nicholls take over with high octaves; a very nice sound and killer melody as the song swings in to full gear, "Get it knocked into your thick skull, It's really not that hard It's a cast iron binding covenant And this is just the start, There are insults and injuries, You've heaped upon yourself, But you play the victim, While you pile the blame on someone else". This track has some of the most memorable lyrics of IQ and the chorus, once it gets in your head, well you will never forget that melody, "So before I state my intention to live or die, I command your total attention In Ryker Skies." I love the way the track merges into a full blown keyboard attack. Once again a throbbing beat ensues like the machinated pulses of Ayreon. The acoustic flourishes are a lovely touch, adding to the very airy atmosphere. I would rate this as a proposed single from the album, as it is more commercial in sound, but this does not detract from the musicianship which is excellent throughout. A wonderful song.
The Province is a 13 minute IQ romp with textures of light and dark, moments of tension and release are present and infectious melodic verses. The style at times is not dissimilar to the sound of Peter Gabriel's Genesis. There is a heavy guitar riff that overpowers the soundscape after a time. The staccato synthesizer chords are fantastic as tradeoffs with guitar. There is a lot of acoustic work but it is well balanced by the heavier sections. There are many changes in tempo and mood and it progresses into minimalist piano and vocals at the end; "I cannot count the many ways cos' there's nothing real... before the wireless kills."
Closer is as far removed from the obscene industrial NIN song of the same name as you can get. It is a balladic song with positive vocals that are close to Neal Morse or Spock's Beard; "Slandered and betrayed, A character assassination, Watch the guilty fade, Now the work is done, Ghosts of early days, Gather round the later rivals, All parade upon the earth to which they're bound, Silent in their course, They steal across the icy stations, Words are useless now, They fall upon the ground." The song builds gradually until we get a majestic instrumental break with soaring keyboards and then a beautifully sung verse with powerful lyrics; "Hold on, when I'm dead and gone from you, Remember me as light breaking through, Stay strong, any time you feel you're lost, I will carry you back across". The piano motif becomes hypnotic toward the end repeated as guitars and sporadic drums maintain a melancholy mood, closing the album in style.
Overall, "Frequency" is the best I have heard from IQ, melancholy, with moments of heavy tension, and those soaring powerful vocals: this is neo prog at a virtuoso level and I think it's one of the albums of 2009. Accessible and soaring vocally, atmospheric and ambient musically. A masterful work of high quality musicianship.
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richardh
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 17:42 |
Didn't realise this thread existed.
IQ are a very important band to me. When I was getting disillusioned with prog rock in the early eighties up popped this band. I first heard them on Tommy Vance's 'Friday Rock Show' doing a session that included Gateway. I was immediately impressed as they were a band with obvious ability.
I picked up THe Wake soon after and within a few plays this was completely addictive listening for me. A prog band with balls and even a bit of a punky attitude.
I remember then getting very excited when I heard that they had a new album coming out called Nomzamo. So much so I went down to the Our Price records in town to check if they had it it in yet at least 3-4 times. Eventually they di but oh what a massive let down. Horrible jingly jangly 80's production and a very different weak vocalist. No Pete Nicholls no balls.
So I pretty much gave up on them and didn't bother with either Are You Sitting Comfortably or Ever which didn't have very particularly appealing album covers.But some time around 1997 or whenever it was I was browsing the CD racks and picked out the latest double CD by IQ called Subterannea. I liked the artwork and so had a look at the sleevenotes and noticed that Pete Nicholls was back in. Wonderfull! Bought it staright away and what a joy it was.Serious proper mature prog for the nineties. I could emmerse myself quite happily with the headphones on and shut out the world.
About a year or so later I had the privilege of seeing them perform the whole of Subterannea at the now defunct Astoria. What a gig. They even finished later than planned doing a full version of Gateway. To this day still one of my favourite gigs.
Since then I've counted IQ as one of my favourite bands. Only ELP and perhaps Rush I would put ahead of them. They have never released a bad album (Nomzamo is just mediocre and the rest are good or better).Frequency shows they still have a lot left in them.
My favourite IQ albums:
The Wake
Ever
Frequency
The Seventh House
Tales From The Lush Attic
but really I can listen quite happily to anything they have done which is a rare thing.
Edited by richardh - October 22 2010 at 17:43
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 17:16 |
Love these guys. Having been a huge Gabriel era Genesis fan, finding these guys was so wonderful. Great musicians and a lot of fun live. My favs:
1-Seventh House 2-Dark Matter 3-Subterranea 4-The Wake 5-Ever 6-Frequency
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 15:45 |
1. The Seventh House 2. Ever 3. Subterranea 4. Dark Matter 5. The Wake 6. Tales from the Lush Attic
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-Nomozomo -Are You Sitting Comfortably -Frequency
The last few didn't really impress me or make me want to listen to them much.
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 14:06 |
I got into IQ back in about 83; saw them in Bristol (The Granary? and possibly at the colston hall in 84/ its all a bit foggy now..) i roadied a bit for a mates band who supported Pendragon in 84 & ended up with 'Tales from the Lush Attic' (the blue numbered version) all signed & after that 'Barbell is in' 12", then 'The Wake' And eventually '9 in a pond' double.. Sort of lost track after that but was given a promo copy of 'Nomzamo' with photo's n record company guff.. wasn't very impressed and they looked a bit naff.. Completely lost track for about 20 years (i knew they were still recording but was into other things) but have re-discovered them with 'Dark Matter' which i have on vinyl and Love!! i was always really impressed by them in the early eighties (but i liked loads of those so called 'Neo' prog bands at the time) & think they still sound fantastic which i'm afraid i can't say for some of the other bands still going/ reformed from that period . Not gonna name any names cos (A) i dont want to offend anyone- its only my opinion and (B) certain bands 'work' really hard and put a lot into keeping their small but very loyal fanbase happy and enthusiastic and i respect that even if i'm not a great fan.
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Posted: October 22 2010 at 09:23 |
My alphabetical trip through my CD collection has brought me to IQ. I am looking forward to these next few days as I make my way through their discography.
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Posted: October 23 2009 at 13:10 |
And without going into my personal habits ( ), this extraordinary piece of music has been virtually constantly played by Lazland for some two weeks now. I've barely listened to anything else, except Frequency to give myself a break. Neo prog at its finest.
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 13:42 |
The Old Road wrote:
Roland113 wrote:
^ I've heard that if you umm. . . take care of yourself . . . you know, before you listen to Harvest of Souls . . . that you may . . . umm . . . be able to avoid that problem . . . last a bit longer, you know.
I'm just sayin'
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To be fair, it is a twenty minute track so he's not doing too bad! |
Well said
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I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms.
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The Old Road
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 13:27 |
Roland113 wrote:
^ I've heard that if you umm. . . take care of yourself . . . you know, before you listen to Harvest of Souls . . . that you may . . . umm . . . be able to avoid that problem . . . last a bit longer, you know.
I'm just sayin'
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To be fair, it is a twenty minute track so he's not doing too bad!
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 10:01 |
I like them a lot. My fav. IQ albums:
1. Frequency
2. Ever
3. Dark Matter
4. Subterranea
5. The Seventh House
I don't care for their early albums though - they were too much Genesis wanabes for my taste back then!
Albums with Mennel are not of my liking as well...
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Roland113
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Posted: October 09 2009 at 07:30 |
^ I've heard that if you umm. . . take care of yourself . . . you know, before you listen to Harvest of Souls . . . that you may . . . umm . . . be able to avoid that problem . . . last a bit longer, you know.
I'm just sayin'
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I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms.
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Posted: October 08 2009 at 22:28 |
"Harvest of Souls" makes me jizz in my pants. It is absolutely mesmerizing.
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Posted: October 07 2009 at 02:53 |
Roland113 wrote:
^ Glad you liked it Roj. They did The Narrow Margin in Pittsburgh and I almost fell out of my seat. It was great to hear. I really liked the little Theramin thing that Mike Holmes was using on Erosion (assuming of course that they did that one for your show as well). |
No, no Erosion this time. Other than the full Frequency album they played The Darkest Hour, the wonderful Sacred Sound (my all-time IQ no.2 so I was happy), Guiding Light, Narrow Margin, It All Stops Here, The Wake and Headlong ( another fave of mine).
When I get some pics sorted out I'll post a review of the gig.........
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 10:05 |
^ Agreed, while I'm somewhat lukewarm on Frequency itself, the concert DVD is a great and absolutely worth the extra five bucks.
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 07:34 |
Badabing666 wrote:
This is great thread as I have been getting back into IQ recently having fallen in love with Frequency. Motivated by their new album I have revisited some of their previous stuff and currently like them in this order. 1. Frequency 4.32 2. The Seventh House 4.24 3. Subterranea 4.20 4. Dark Matter 3.80 5. The Wake 3.50
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This pretty much sums up my thoughts. I was introduced to IQ by PA and will be ever thankful for that. And I was lucky enough to purchase the Frequency enhanced limited edition for an absolute bargain price and can now also enjoy a live DVD.
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 07:04 |
^ Glad you liked it Roj. They did The Narrow Margin in Pittsburgh and I almost fell out of my seat. It was great to hear. I really liked the little Theramin thing that Mike Holmes was using on Erosion (assuming of course that they did that one for your show as well).
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Posted: October 05 2009 at 03:03 |
The Bury Met gig was fantastic!!
A full rendition of Frequency was followed by some earlier classics. Best of the lot had to be that they played The Narrow Margin, I really wasn't expecting that . The Wake/Headlong as an encore was pretty impressive too.
I'll post a full review of the gig once I get more time....
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