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Poll Question: Which band do you prefer based on their 70's output?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2013 at 02:54
Rush by many a mile. 

I simply adore their stuff from 2112- Hemispheres (which they managed to surpass with their next 2 releases - IMHO)

Crimson - I will never understand their popularity. They are clearly loved by most of the prog community - I just don't know why -  I've tried listening to different KC albums but finally just gave up.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2013 at 12:16
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by proggman proggman wrote:

King Crimson because of In the Court of the Crimson King, or else it would have been Rush.

The overrated album was released in 1969

Yes but the poll creator said it was included and the album is a masterpiece. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2013 at 09:26
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by proggman proggman wrote:

King Crimson because of <span dir="auto">In the Court of the Crimson King, or else it would have been Rush.</span>

The overrated album was released in 1969

The debut was an odd thing that I still only listen to more for historical reasons than for enjoyment, and it was indeed in 69. It was made stranger still by In The Wake... I don't like Islands. Lizard, Larks Tongues, and Starless are magnificent. On the basis of those albums I voted Crimson. It was a good period for Rush too, certainly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2013 at 09:06
Just about decided on King Crimson, but if their debut wasn't there it could have gone either way Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2013 at 02:00
Originally posted by proggman proggman wrote:

King Crimson because of <span dir="auto">In the Court of the Crimson King, or else it would have been Rush.</span>

The overrated album was released in 1969
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2013 at 20:47
King Crimson because of In the Court of the Crimson King, or else it would have been Rush.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2013 at 15:44
KC..........I mean ..they are my all time favorite prog band ,
 
but those Rush fellas did write that cool Tom Sawyer tune.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2013 at 03:44
Lemme see. If we ignore '60s pop record ITCOTCK ;) based on release date we can get KC from 70 - 74 (with a '75 posthumous USA classic  live record). As KC went into hibernation Rush emerged.

Hemispheres, A Farewell to Kings and 2112 are the Rush classics to end the 1970s. Poseidon, Red, Larks Tongues, Starless And Bible Black are The KC classics released just as Rush arrived.. I know Lizard is unique and I like it it is a one off idea that is more experimental as Fripp tries to organize KC into something resembling a working band. Poseidon finishes the train of thought begun with ITCOTCK, Islands is a bit like Lizard as a working ideal, shame it resulted in the awful sounding Earthbound. Rush take the honours in concert releases here, but archive releases re-write (re-right?) KC's live era with a more positive epitaph.

KC get the vote here but I'm damned if I'll do without them great Rush albums, Fly By Night is quite a good set of pieces. Caress of Steel is very ambitious but needed that sense of structure that extended works like The Necromancer needed. This turned up with 2112 to the extent I kind of wished it was a 40 minute long concept.

Rush is a good hard rock album, but it's the last works taking the honours with KC possibly getting their considerable musical nose in front.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2013 at 00:41
Easily Rush - I've never gone nuts for a King Crimson album however I do recognise their importance to prog music. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2013 at 00:38
Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Specifying only '70's material, I would have to go with Rush.  Throw in the rest and I might vote a different way.

You guys do realize that '70's should exclude ITCOTCK, right?


I said in the OP that 1969 was included.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2013 at 21:08
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Specifying only '70's material, I would have to go with Rush.  Throw in the rest and I might vote a different way.

You guys do realize that '70's should exclude ITCOTCK, right?

Makes their album strength better without it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2013 at 21:05
King Crismon. I do enjoy Rush, but I think their albums through the 70's sound all very similar, while King Crimson were extremely diverse. Plus, there's no album from Rush that get's close to Crimson's debut. Nor any Rush song I like as much as Epitaph and Starless (though 2112 may get close).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2013 at 20:08
King Crimson.  I don't like anything by Rush.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2013 at 17:16
Both bands released their best material in the 70's in my opinion but RUSH just had that magic so simple yet so complex as well. KC all over the place with line-up changes. Who can compete with Lee and Peart?(Don't tell me Wetton and Bruford) ha. I think some of King Crimson's music in the 70's is a joke( Providence Dead sounds like a cat getting strangled)All those improv pieces all sound the same to me(not even remotely interesting). Rush in my opinion though the instruments and music were not as eclectic they were still pretty darn good. Imagine if Rush had a David Cross or someone like that. Think about it. For a 3 man band they were still pretty darn good(and still are). 
 Their best albums for me are LTIA and AFTK. I choose 

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Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - November 21 2013 at 18:33
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2013 at 14:31
Lol.

KC, easily.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2013 at 13:59
Why am I not surprised that a poll featuring Kc and Rush already has 50 votes. Gotta love it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2013 at 13:58
Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Specifying only '70's material, I would have to go with Rush.  Throw in the rest and I might vote a different way.

You guys do realize that '70's should exclude ITCOTCK, right?

Makes their album strength better without it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2013 at 13:50
Originally posted by ole-the-first ole-the-first wrote:

King Crimson
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2013 at 13:30

LOL I know what I picked Wink

Rush was the first prog band I got immersed in, though, so I do give them a hat-tip for that. If not for them, I wouldn't have discovered my now faves, and that's not to say their stuff doesn't hold up either. It definitely does!

But then there's KC... 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2013 at 13:23
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