| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
sukmytoe 
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 18 2013
Location: South Africa
Status: Offline
Points: 291
|
 Posted: July 30 2013 at 01:16 |
|
For me it is Black Sabbath all the way. I wasn't into King Crimson at all back then, was more of a Black Sabbath, Grand Funk Railroad, Uriah Heep man. The Sabs released six classic albums in a row, the next two were way weaker than the first six however there are moments of magic on those two albums as well. Fripp vs Iommi? - Iommi is the riff meister. Tons of respect for Iommi for battling on through the damage to his hand and still becoming a guitar legend. One wonders what would have happened had Iommi not damaged his hand and accordingly played with a guitar that was tuned down - a whole spectrum of music may not exist today possibly.
Edited by sukmytoe - July 30 2013 at 01:16
|
 |
The.Crimson.King
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 29 2013
Location: WA
Status: Offline
Points: 4596
|
Posted: July 29 2013 at 23:41 |
 KingCrInuYasha wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
For me, when Ozzy left the magic left as well. I know many Dio fans who will be throwing devil horns my way but the only post-Ozzy song I like is Neon Knights. I know Dio was a great guy, but I much prefer his work in Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow to anything he did in Sabbath. The 1st 5 Sabbath albums created something completely new and unique, then polished it to perfection. To their credit it took another 10+ years for any other bands to take the doom metal genre they created and advance it any farther. |
Just the first five Sabbath albums? Huh. What do you think about about Sabotage, their sixth? I think that did just as much as the previous ones in shaping heavy metal. |
Ya, I gotta give Sabotage credit for what I consider Tony's greatest evil riff...Symptom of the Universe. Looking at the whole album though, I think it was a step down in quality from the 1st 5.
|
|
|
|
KingCrInuYasha
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 26 2010
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 1281
|
Posted: July 29 2013 at 20:37 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
For me, when Ozzy left the magic left as well. I know many Dio fans who will be throwing devil horns my way but the only post-Ozzy song I like is Neon Knights. I know Dio was a great guy, but I much prefer his work in Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow to anything he did in Sabbath. The 1st 5 Sabbath albums created something completely new and unique, then polished it to perfection. To their credit it took another 10+ years for any other bands to take the doom metal genre they created and advance it any farther. |
Just the first five Sabbath albums? Huh. What do you think about about Sabotage, their sixth? I think that did just as much as the previous ones in shaping heavy metal.
|
|
He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
|
|
mongofa
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 26 2011
Location: Zanzibar
Status: Offline
Points: 410
|
Posted: July 28 2013 at 13:15 |
|
Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath on Black Sabbath is the best song since King Crimson by King Crimson on King Crimson
|
|
|
|
Metalmarsh89
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 15 2013
Location: Oregon, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 2673
|
Posted: July 28 2013 at 11:42 |
|
I have not listened to Black Sabbath's debut. Both are good covers too, but I definitely prefer King Crimson's.
|
|
The.Crimson.King
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 29 2013
Location: WA
Status: Offline
Points: 4596
|
Posted: July 23 2013 at 23:53 |
dr wu23 wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Josef_K wrote:
Both are incredible albums, KC is in a slight lead though... plus I hate voting for "both" in this kind of poll. Sabbath is way better when comparing the whole discography though. |
Wow, I think the exact opposite. The quality of the Sabbath releases tumbled with Never Say Die and never regained their original excellence while the Crimso albums kept exploring and conquering new ground  |
I agree with you on this......after the first few Sabbath lp's I grew tired of the whole 'heavy metal doom and gloom' thing. When I was young at college we all found the early Sabbath to be 'fun' but after a while it became boring and all of us moved on to more interesting bands.
Not knocking Sabbath btw ( I still pull out the early ones and play them now and then...) but I have always felt that beyond the obvious doom metal thing they really didn't have that much to offer me. |
For me, when Ozzy left the magic left as well. I know many Dio fans who will be throwing devil horns my way but the only post-Ozzy song I like is Neon Knights. I know Dio was a great guy, but I much prefer his work in Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow to anything he did in Sabbath. The 1st 5 Sabbath albums created something completely new and unique, then polished it to perfection. To their credit it took another 10+ years for any other bands to take the doom metal genre they created and advance it any farther.
|
|
|
|
Man With Hat
Collaborator
Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team
Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
Status: Offline
Points: 166183
|
Posted: July 23 2013 at 19:41 |
|
The Court, of course.
|
|
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
|
|
Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer
Joined: August 27 2006
Location: The Beach
Status: Offline
Points: 13586
|
Posted: July 23 2013 at 19:35 |
|
Both are great but In The Court.... gets my vote. It would have been harder if it was Master Of Reality or Paranoid.
|
|
"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
|
|
dr wu23
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 22 2010
Location: Indiana
Status: Offline
Points: 20631
|
Posted: July 23 2013 at 09:56 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Josef_K wrote:
Both are incredible albums, KC is in a slight lead though... plus I hate voting for "both" in this kind of poll. Sabbath is way better when comparing the whole discography though. |
Wow, I think the exact opposite. The quality of the Sabbath releases tumbled with Never Say Die and never regained their original excellence while the Crimso albums kept exploring and conquering new ground |
I agree with you on this......after the first few Sabbath lp's I grew tired of the whole 'heavy metal doom and gloom' thing. When I was young at college we all found the early Sabbath to be 'fun' but after a while it became boring and all of us moved on to more interesting bands.
Not knocking Sabbath btw ( I still pull out the early ones and play them now and then...) but I have always felt that beyond the obvious doom metal thing they really didn't have that much to offer me.
|
|
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
|
|
ole-the-first
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 03 2012
Location: Russia
Status: Offline
Points: 1534
|
Posted: July 23 2013 at 07:43 |
|
Voted for both, though honestly I love 'In the Court...' more.
|
|
This night wounds time.
|
|
Pekka
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 03 2006
Location: Espoo, Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 6442
|
Posted: July 23 2013 at 01:12 |
|
Both are incredibly iconic and important in the development of popular music, but influence aside, Court is far more consistently brilliant if you ask me. Sabbath got a whole lot better with Paranoid and onwards.
|
|
|
|
Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15926
|
Posted: July 23 2013 at 00:42 |
|
So glad you have the 'both' option. These two albums are historically significant for sure and I rate them both with 5 stars. I've probably listened to them about as much as each other (since the late '80's). Still I never tire from them.
|
|
The.Crimson.King
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 29 2013
Location: WA
Status: Offline
Points: 4596
|
Posted: July 23 2013 at 00:28 |
Josef_K wrote:
Both are incredible albums, KC is in a slight lead though... plus I hate voting for "both" in this kind of poll. Sabbath is way better when comparing the whole discography though. |
Wow, I think the exact opposite. The quality of the Sabbath releases tumbled with Never Say Die and never regained their original excellence while the Crimso albums kept exploring and conquering new ground
|
|
|
|
KingCrInuYasha
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 26 2010
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 1281
|
Posted: July 23 2013 at 00:26 |
Really hard to say. Both albums have a lot in common.
Set the bar for their genres. Solid debuts, though both groups would later top them in subsequent efforts. Excellent album covers.
|
|
He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
|
|
Josef_K
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 15 2011
Location: Stockholm
Status: Offline
Points: 147
|
Posted: July 22 2013 at 04:35 |
|
Both are incredible albums, KC is in a slight lead though... plus I hate voting for "both" in this kind of poll. Sabbath is way better when comparing the whole discography though.
|
|
Leave the past to burn,
At least that's been his own
- Peter Hammill
|
|
otto pankrock
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 02 2009
Location: canada
Status: Offline
Points: 330
|
Posted: July 12 2013 at 19:43 |
|
BOTH are among my favorites. Can't pick one over the other.
|
|
Earendil
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 17 2008
Location: Indiana, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 1584
|
Posted: July 12 2013 at 18:45 |
|
I had to go with the both option on this one
|
|
Icarium
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: March 21 2008
Location: Tigerstaden
Status: Offline
Points: 34055
|
Posted: July 12 2013 at 15:20 |
|
Im dence as a teak trunk and mahogny trunk
Edited by aginor - July 12 2013 at 15:21
|
|
|
|
Michael678
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 02 2013
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2466
|
Posted: July 12 2013 at 15:05 |
|
just make it clear everyone!!! lol
|
|
The.Crimson.King
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 29 2013
Location: WA
Status: Offline
Points: 4596
|
Posted: July 12 2013 at 15:03 |
dr wu23 wrote:
aginor wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Both. Tony Iommi made me want to pick up a guitar. Robert Fripp made me want to learn how to play it. They both made me want to do evil things with it  |
so wat you are implying is that Iommi can't play guitar or that he is just a poor player |
Mmmm...both?
|
Wow, actually neither 
Fripp is my favourite guitarist and Tony my second. My point was seeing Tony perform at Cal Jam '74 (on TV) made such a huge impression on me that I was inspired to pick up a guitar, 3 years later hearing Fripp amazed me at the other things a guitar could also do.
|
|
|
|
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
/PAlogo_v2.gif "Progarchives.com Homepage")
In the Court of the Crimson King vs Black Sabbath
