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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 22:34 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 11:57 |
Who was butter at songwriting, John or Paul? ...
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Moogtron III
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 11:48 |
I think Paul was the biggest creative force. But without Lennon, who was quite creative himself, he wouldn't be as creative as he was.
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Pelata
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Posted: January 14 2013 at 11:33 |
I chose Paul. John was the sarcasm and wit, Paul was the whimsical and happy. Together they were untouchable, but I prefer Paul's solo material to John's, George' or Ringo's.
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richardh
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Posted: September 03 2012 at 11:37 |
Someone told me that Lennon and McCartney didn't write any songs together after about 1966 (but no idea if its true). Interestingly McCartney is reckoned to have written I Am The Walrus while most would assume its a Lennon song.
Anyway for me its always going to be Macca although I still remember exactly where I was when I heard the news that Lennon was no longer with us. I felt a sadness that I've never felt about anyone else. If the question was who did I respect most in the band then Lennon would be my answer.
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Dellinger
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Posted: September 03 2012 at 11:07 |
tamijo wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
Once I saw a list of who really wrote the songs credited to "Lennon/McCartney", and as far as I could tell, Most of the most famous (and also my favourites) were actually McCartney's songs, so I would think he was the most important for the band (since, for me, the most important aspect of a band is the music they create). Lennon was surely the more notable one, with his peace and love philosophy and so on... and even his looks. But still, more important, I would say McCartney. |
But who would be able to make a trustworthy list, I'm relatively sure Lennon or McCartney would not. And the fact that especially not McMartney, would later be able to write much interesting music, compared to what they did together, is enough for me to know, the teamwork made them brilliant, not McCartney alone.
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Unfortunatley, I saw that list many years ago and don't really remember so much, except that I liked better most of Paul's songs, and in general they were the most famous ones. Perhaps it was someone from this forum who posted it, or a fan site of the Beatles. I'm afraid I don't know how was it obtained nor how reliable it was.
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NYSPORTSFAN
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Posted: September 03 2012 at 10:50 |
There is really no right answer for this question IMO. George influenced many rock guitarists to use electric 12 string guitars most notably Roger McGuinn therefore the emerging folk rock scene and jangle pop scene owe a lot to George. His use of rare techniques at the time for example volume swells and backward guitar parts are now common features in rock music. George in rock music with his use sitar or tambura was also very devolopment with World Music. Many Beatles songs were enhanced by McCartney's ideas for examples loops on "Tomorrow Never Knows" and the mellotron on "Strawberry Fields Forever". Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road were more influenced by Paul than John. That being said I would say John was the most important Beatle but he had a lot of input from the other Beatles.
Edited by NYSPORTSFAN - September 03 2012 at 10:51
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The-time-is-now
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Posted: September 03 2012 at 10:41 |
I eally think McCartney brought something more. Of course, the three others too and especially Lennon.
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JeanFrame
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Posted: September 03 2012 at 04:32 |
I can't vote on this poll. To me each Beatle was a vital ingredient in the chemistry of the most important band ever.
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tamijo
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Posted: September 03 2012 at 03:09 |
Dellinger wrote:
Once I saw a list of who really wrote the songs credited to "Lennon/McCartney", and as far as I could tell, Most of the most famous (and also my favourites) were actually McCartney's songs, so I would think he was the most important for the band (since, for me, the most important aspect of a band is the music they create). Lennon was surely the more notable one, with his peace and love philosophy and so on... and even his looks. But still, more important, I would say McCartney. |
But who would be able to make a trustworthy list, I'm relatively sure Lennon or McCartney would not. And the fact that especially not McMartney, would later be able to write much interesting music, compared to what they did together, is enough for me to know, the teamwork made them brilliant, not McCartney alone.
Edited by tamijo - September 03 2012 at 03:14
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Dellinger
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Posted: September 02 2012 at 21:04 |
Once I saw a list of who really wrote the songs credited to "Lennon/McCartney", and as far as I could tell, Most of the most famous (and also my favourites) were actually McCartney's songs, so I would think he was the most important for the band (since, for me, the most important aspect of a band is the music they create). Lennon was surely the more notable one, with his peace and love philosophy and so on... and even his looks. But still, more important, I would say McCartney.
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tamijo
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Posted: September 02 2012 at 17:51 |
George means a lot to me, he was the Joker, comming out with a pearl sometimes, the other two mining gold on a regular basis.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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DiamondDog
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Posted: August 31 2012 at 06:12 |
ALL the elements of this band were essential, a true band where chemistry and not individualism counts most. Then again, if I had to choose ONE person, it would be Lennon, around whom everything spun. But McCartney was of course instrumental (!) in everything that subsequently happened.
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yanch
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Posted: August 31 2012 at 05:22 |
John Lennon.
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Raccoon
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Posted: August 31 2012 at 00:12 |
From the way I see it, Paul had the best solo stuff, and contributed SO MUCH to The Beatles, but John had the most influence and importance of the band (Through history, so many bands had their inspiration from John).
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Eria Tarka
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Posted: August 30 2012 at 22:04 |
Dr. Robert.... but seriously, John.
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: August 30 2012 at 16:14 |
Most influential, certainly Lennon, no doubt about that. Most important, I'd say McCartney - probably the most musically gifted out of the four, in my opinion.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: August 30 2012 at 13:23 |
John
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Progosopher
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Posted: August 30 2012 at 13:05 |
I have to go with the majority here and say that John was the most important, but with Paul a very close second. I think it was John's vision more than the others that propelled them to their most creative work. My favorite, however, is still George.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Wanorak
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Posted: August 30 2012 at 12:48 |
McCartney, as he kept the band going after the death of Brian Epstein.
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