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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2012 at 16:37
I'm loving Quiet Sun's Mainstream.  So happy I happened upon a review of it to get my attention because that is an awesome album.  And I'm like that Hiro Yanagida song above.  Still have a long way to go to get through all of these!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2012 at 16:03
Hugh Hopper and Richard Sinclair's, 'Somewhere in France' is a nice collaboration.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2012 at 15:29
Originally posted by Olivier! Olivier! wrote:

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This is exactly what I was expecting while signing on PA forum... to discover new fusion and avant albums similar to zeuhl and canterbury.
 
While I can get behind National Health and some of the better known things, there are a lot of them that are not as well known that are much more interesting ... when listening to Richard Sinclair's Caravan of Dreams, the first thing that stands out is ... ok ... it has its pop'y moments ... wait ... what's that? ... oh my gawd ... is he mumbling through a water pipe? ... and for me, it is what "Canterbury" really was about ... a lot of fun and different things, and not a style ... it was about the person or the music itself, and the names were invisible.
 
It's hard for me to sit here and appreciate the "canterbury" scene, in the way that folks are mentioning it ... when in the end, you will find ... good gawd ... where do I start defining this stuff? ... because it is way too different from album to album ... even though you might think ... that's a bit jazzy here ... but when you get over there and you have Lol Coxhill ... that's jazz'y ... but what is it ... and you go crazy defining it.
 
Canterbury, is more of an "enjoyment" than it is a "style" ... and for more appreciation of it, I would recommend listening to it for enjoyment and a different experience. If you are looking for a lable, I can tell you that none of these people enjoy lables and many of them are all over the place in terms of what and where they play!
 
Lastly ... so many of these folks are majors and professors in music ... it's not funny ... so yeah ... at times it is expected that the musical knowledge and playing and ability in this stuff is way further up the studious lather than otherwise!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 16:55
I'm falling of my chair desk... literally... I need this one in my life.

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Keep them coming ;3
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 16:31
Listed here on PA under psych, Hiro Yanagida made one fusion album with 1 and a half foot in the Canterbury lands called Hirocosmos. Highly recommendedThumbs Up

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 16:13
Nice!!!
I'm writing Mason "Fictitious sports" on my wishlist... I don't feel the canterbury touch I'm usually seeking in a canterbury album though... but it sounds like a crazy album with many interesting influences including the Floyds, RIO and some canterbury with Wyatt vocal. 

This is exactly what I was expecting while signing on PA forum... to discover new fusion and avant albums similar to zeuhl and canterbury.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 14:32
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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I was actually thinking of Carla Bley and some of the other jazz folks that also show up all over the place.
 
It's been said that Nick Mason's album "Fictitious Sports" (probably the ONLY true Canterbury PF solo album EVER done!) is more of a Carla Bley album than it is anything else. It is also an album that Robert Wyatt runs a muck on it and it is a lot of fun, but not something that most PF fans (specially the DSOTM and WALL fans) will usually enjoy! This is fun for the sake of fun, not pointed music, although thinking that you are a mineralist might get you going ... hmmm ... wonder what kind of dope that is?
 
Consider following/checking the Sinclairs and the Millers that were in Caravan and then some ... it's the most incestupus family you ever saw, and makes me wonder if they are into music at all! Wink
 
NP: Caravan of Dreams - Richard Sinclair
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 11:11
Hi,
 
I was actually thinking of Carla Bley and some of the other jazz folks that also show up all over the place.
 
It's been said that Nick Mason's album "Fictitious Sports" (probably the ONLY true Canterbury PF solo album EVER done!) is more of a Carla Bley album than it is anything else. It is also an album that Robert Wyatt runs a muck on it and it is a lot of fun, but not something that most PF fans (specially the DSOTM and WALL fans) will usually enjoy! This is fun for the sake of fun, not pointed music, although thinking that you are a mineralist might get you going ... hmmm ... wonder what kind of dope that is?
 
Consider following/checking the Sinclairs and the Millers that were in Caravan and then some ... it's the most incestupus family you ever saw, and makes me wonder if they are into music at all! Wink
 
NP: Caravan of Dreams - Richard Sinclair


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 08:05
Favorite Canterbury albums that i own. I would love to have more!
Caravan - s/t, Ificoulddoitalloveragainiddoitalloveryou, In the land of Grey and Pink
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Hatfield and the North - Rotters Club
Soft Machine - Third
Matching Mole - s/t, Little Red Record
Quiet Sun - Mainstream
Gong - Angel's Egg
 
Caravan's first is probably my favorite! Approve
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2012 at 03:54
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

All three of Egg's albums are great.  I never really got big into Hatfield, but they are not bad.  Nation Health's debut is fantastic, I've only heard the second one once but didn't dig it as much

I agree on everything you said. I had the exact same "relation" with National Health's second album. I even rated it as a 2-star album for a while, but it really grows on you. Now I prefer it to the debut with a giant margin. But both are without any doubt 5-star albums for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 21:14
Yeah, a lot of these recommendations WILL be in my collection fairly soon.  My bank account isn't very happy about it.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 20:18
Given your starting point I'd highly recommend the following bolded albums
Originally posted by Olivier! Olivier! wrote:

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Hatfield and the North (2) and National Health (3 or Complete)... 
Bruford (3), egg (3), Pierre Moerlen's Gong (4) Matching Moles (2), Gilgamesh (2), Gowen-Miller-Sinclair-Tomkins (1),  Moving Gelatine Plate (2), the first Henry Cow (Leg-End), Piccio Dal Pozzo (3), The muffins (Mana and Chrono)... Kenso (2,3,sparta,dreamhill), Ain Soph (hat and field, Marine, Mysterious forest) and Mr Sirius (2)  from Japan... Pazop, Panthéon, John Greaves (kew rhone). And don't forget to buy Soft Machine - Bundles too.

"NewSchool" bands : 
Antique Seeking Nuns, Volaré, Moom, Bandhada, Amoeba Split, SIXNORTH, A Triggering Myth (2 last), French TV (3 first), Radio Piece III, Tipographica, 

And there is a ton of fusion groups/albums that could have some similar lining like Tasavalan Presidenti, Pekka Pohjola, Uzva,  Samurai, Granada, Maneige, Bubu, Kultivator (zeuhlish), Jacques Tollot (cinq hop = zeuhlish), Potemkin (Nicolas 2 = zeuhlish), Abus Dangereux (4ième Mouvement = Zeuhlish), Mahogany Frog



It's pretty much essential to get the Hatfield, National Health, Matching Mole & Gilgamesh.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 19:19
All three of Egg's albums are great.  I never really got big into Hatfield, but they are not bad.  Nation Health's debut is fantastic, I've only heard the second one once but didn't dig it as much
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 19:06
Originally posted by MillsLayne MillsLayne wrote:

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Some of my favorite albums/bands:
 
Caravan - In The Land Of Grey And Pink
Soft Machine - Vol.1 - Seven
Gong - Camembert Electrique and the whole Radio Gnome Trilogy
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
 
Well if you haven't already, you must hear both Hatfield & The North albums as well as the first two National Health albums and Egg's The Polite Force. It's mandatory, dammit!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 18:14
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:


Not sure what you've heard out of the Canterbury Scene but Caravan's If I Could is miles past Grey and Pink. I even rate Plump and Waterloo Lily higher than it.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 18:02

For Kultivator, true, there only one album is pretty amazing. They were singing in their native langage wich looks like a tad like Magma’s Kobaian langage.

Wyatt - rock bottom is a good canterbury album, really pleasant to listen too, more interesting than some Soft Machine imo, its Wyatt first solo album post Soft Machine and Matching Moles. 

Khan - Space Shanty  is more space rock than Canterbury, with Dave Stewart (Egg, HatN, NH) on keyboard and Steve Hillage (Gong) on guitar... this album is often cited with the two first Egg albums. Like Horizons says, that sounds a tad vintage... but many early Canterbury albums also sound dated (I’m actually thinking about the 3 first SM and Caravan, Egg, the first of SuperSisters...)

Like Logan, I haven’t really felt Steve Hillage - Fish Rising. Its a post Khan, similar to Gong trilogy era with some psychedelic/spacy lining.

Sorry for Horizons but my favorite Caravan is still "In the land of the grey and pink"... that was my introduction to the genre even to prog rock music...   I also like "Plump" and "if i could", but  not really "waterloo lily" tho

 I like Quiet Sun too... a tad more fuzzy and abrasive than Hatfield but similar. A must have in your Canterbury collection for sure.

John Greaves - Kew. Rhone is often cited as a Canterbury album but in fact, this sounds more like RIO meets Zeuhl meets Canterbury, its more like an avant-prog album... I find this one weird but really nice to listen...

Cos – Viva Boma is a good choice. Buy it if you succeed to find it at low cost cause I cannot... this album is in my wish list since a long time ago. I own “ train robbery” .

I don’t really know Zyma, what I have eard didn’t succeed to convince me back in some years to buy their album... might give another try tonight.

Volaré – Uncertainty Principle is one of my “newschool” fav, Memoire is good too but the record sounds not very good.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 15:09
Can a Canterbury band come from Athens Georgia?  On PA it can.

My friend had this album, and I don't remember a lot about it, but in the late 90s there was a LOT of buzz about it, particularly since the band was from Athens GA (right down the road from me) and played a Canterbury kind of prog.  I remember it sounding very good, but there wasn't a whole lot of Canterbury around at the time, so it might just have been the novelty which impressed me.  (edit: after sampling the track below, I think it still sounds good).

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=5116

VOLARE' - The Uncertainty Principle

Found this track on Youtube, but the song title doesn't appear on either of the albums on PA.  In any case, it's a good example of how they sound - very Hatfield and the North-y.







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 14:56
Originally posted by MillsLayne MillsLayne wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Supersister's To thee Highest Bidder and Quiet Sun's Mainstream are some of my favorites that seem to get overlooked.
 
I actually just bought this and should be here any day now! Big smile
 
Some of my favorite albums/bands:
 
Caravan - In The Land Of Grey And Pink
Soft Machine - Vol.1 - Seven
Gong - Camembert Electrique and the whole Radio Gnome Trilogy
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom

Wow surprisingly those are my least favorite releases from each artists, exluding Wyatt - never listened to his work.
Not sure what you've heard out of the Canterbury Scene but Caravan's If I Could is miles past Grey and Pink. I even rate Plump and Waterloo Lily higher than it. Gong's Shamal and Gazeuse are my favorites, more traditional fusion but it's done perfectly. 

Quiet Sun is crazy fun, hope you enjoy it. It's one of my favorite Canterbury albums. 
I also think Khan is HIGHLY overrated and not that special. Sounds too dated, and it's quite boring. 

Moving Gelatine Plates has a great duo of albums, their first 2 are 4* efforts. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 14:35


Nobody mentioned Khaaaaaaaaaaan!





Also, Zyma is only Canterbury-sounding band from Germany that I'm aware of, and they're quite good:


http://www.progarchives.com/mp3.asp?id=3069


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2012 at 13:12
Thanks a lot for the recommendations so far, guys! Smile  Looks like I have a lot to sift through, although a few of these are already on my "Albums To Get" list (Cos - Viva Boma, for instance).  That Pichio dal Pozzo track was very entrancing!
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