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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18159 |
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Hi,
I really think, specially the admins and the folks that work this board, that we need to be wary of "sounding like", specially when you can go get a Prophet 5 and sound like so many of those bands because of the keyboard, or someone else sound like Michael Jackson because he made the DX7's famous.
Or that all musicians that play a Hammond organ sound the same ...
It's too easy ... and I really think this is unfair to the musicians themselves.
I don't think that Marillion and Genesis are anywhere near each other at all ... I actually think that in the beginning, Marillion with Fish actually payed more attention to the lyrics and acting them out, than Genesis, where Peter Gabriel, for all intents and purposes, was more of a story teller, than he was acting them out! The costumes makes you think he's acting them out, but the only place he really acts it all out is the one where he got rid of the costumes ... The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway!
IF, and this is my thinking, you think that something sounds like something else, I have this idea that you are not listening to the music at all ... like saying that there is no difference between Beethoven, Brahms and anyone else at the time ... and that's insane and ... sophomoric for most history courses out there.
You have to give ALL the work some credit, not discredit Marillion because Fish is not your cup of tea, which would make your liking of Peter Hammill rather strange in my book.
Go to a music store ... every thing in there is the same as it is in the next music store you go visit ... and you have to realize that the chances that things will sound similar become way too good, specially when they are teaching crap music theory in school, while you go out and play conventional stuff with the jazz band ... and then you wonder why some revolt and go play metal ... it's like a finger and say ... I'm tired of that crappy stuff ... and this is more fun! The problem is ... they are doing exactly the same thing as everyone else ... because it is all they know.
The most important part of the "progressive" movement, is that a lot of these people were revolting against the standards that were set in the music business for pop music and anything else, not to mention social ... a lot of things! But the only keyboard they could use was the one that was available at merde music ... and then you are going to say ... they sound like blah and blah ...
Heck ... I guess that we're all born the same ... and can't be different! After all, it's always a womb, right?
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13807 |
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rushfan4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Online Points: 66631 |
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Oh yes, and apparently Manning sounds like a cross between Jethro Tull and a goat.
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Lozlan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2009 Location: New Mexico Status: Offline Points: 536 |
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Asia Minor sounds remarkably like Camel. Which is fantastic.
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rushfan4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Online Points: 66631 |
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I'm surprised noone has mentioned the Starcastle sounding like Yes connection.
Also, early RPWL sounds similar to Pink Floyd. Not surprising since they were a Pink Floyd cover band before they started writing original material.
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Moogtron III ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
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I even think that in Script Marillion already has a very own sound. Probably heavily inspired by Genesis, but in no way a clone.
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Tuonela ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: February 24 2009 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 74 |
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Citizen Cain is a proper Genesis clone
Marillion was inspired by Genesis and that influence is present in Script... but after that it's progressively more different. The h era is something else entirely (and even better than the fish period imo) |
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I always thought Marillion sounded like Genesis myself. One of the first things I said in fact. So it must be there.
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13807 |
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I think, to be fair, you could make an argument that Grendel was very much in the spirit of a certain epic track from Foxtrot and that Garden Party drew a little bit of inspiration from tracks like Harold The Barrel. However, in the main, you are right. Marillion have never been copyists. It's why they have been so good & successful. |
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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Those early albums sound nothing like Genesis, composition styles between the bands are far too different for anything other than a passing semblance.
Anyway, Minsk are a Neurosis clone, except they sound better than Neurosis. Edited by sleeper - November 17 2010 at 07:10 |
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13807 |
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Very early Marillion sounds like Genesis. Anything after Misplaced Childhood, and especially Seasons End, sounds bugger all like Genesis - I know. I was there! ![]() |
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Prog Geo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2010 Location: Athens (Greece) Status: Offline Points: 2555 |
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I love post rock/metal but I must confess that the sound is very similar between the bands.
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WalterDigsTunes ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 11 2007 Location: SanDiegoTijuana Status: Offline Points: 4373 |
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That might be its only redeeming feature. In fact, I'd pay good money to hear a version where waters, mason, gilmour, wright and all the voices are edited out. Nothing but Alan Parsons-engineered sax. Mmmm, far more interesting than beatles-like floyd (a prissy mix even in the best of times). |
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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Magic Pie sounds like Dream Theater |
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:O Next you're going to tell me Glass Hammer sounds like Yes! Do Mostly Autumn sound like Pink Floyd and Renaissance?
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Triceratopsoil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 03 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18016 |
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Marillion sounds like Genesis
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The_Jester ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 29 2010 Status: Offline Points: 741 |
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With the same exemple: Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon sounds really much like the Beatles but with saxophone. I don't hate sax but on the album it's sounds horrible.
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Mushroom Sword ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2010 Status: Offline Points: 426 |
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What are some bands you can think of that sound like eachother? Not just... the same style, but when hearing certain songs you go, "wait, is this ______!?"
For some reason Pink Floyd and The Beatles in some songs ( mainy with choirs) sounds very much alike. The very very first words from "Because" from the Beatles reminds me of Pink Floyd. But from the Syd-Barret- era, "See Emily Play" the whole thing sounds just like a Beatles song. So yeah, bands that sound the same, or songs you think are from different artists? |
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