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Posted: October 13 2010 at 06:39
Another lyrical killer, this time a story about Vietnam, but I should say the fun really begins at 1:32. Vinnie Paz has the first verse and he's alright but RA The Rugged Man takes the second verse and it is COMPLETELY BANANAS. His single verse is better than some other rapper's entire careers.
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 06:04
Textbook wrote:
And now, a lyrical masterpiece. I'm not that crazy about the beat, but if you focus on and unpack the lyric, this is unbelievable, especially the second verse.
I dunno, man. The beats on that are pretty killer, if you ask me (which you didn't)
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 05:43
And now, a lyrical masterpiece. I'm not that crazy about the beat, but if you focus on and unpack the lyric, this is unbelievable, especially the second verse.
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Posted: October 13 2010 at 05:42
But this isn't specific to hip-hop. People keep talking like there's some conspiracy to keep "smart" hip-hop out of the spotlight and I really don't know why they do because smart everything is out of the spot light. I mean why we are on this site instead of listening to the rock on the radio? Because it's dumb.
People who really care about music are greatly outnumbered by people who are casual about it and find it illogical/fruitless to invest great quantities of thought into it. This goes for everything and for complex hip-hop too.
Im a huge hip hop fan just like you two above me. Most people on this site and in general have no idea their is great hip hop around still. Deltron 3030 and Blackalicious are great examples of amazing hip hop around today. It seems today you have to look to the underground/alternative hip hop scene to find the good stuff today. You still got great acts in spotlight still that keep it real like The Roots,Mos Def,Talib Kweli and etc. Then u got the great underground acts like Murs,Atmosphere,Aesop Rock and etc. These artists are lyricaly the best in the buisness yet they get no recognition from the mainstream.
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Posted: October 11 2010 at 06:01
^ But see, you hardly hear of those guys and their comrades in popular media. So it's no wonder people just assume it all sucks when all they hear is the watered down, fun-size versions of what Hip-Hop used to be.
If we are going to name specifically modern acts, here, let me mention Deltron 3030. You want to talk about creative, I'd say that fits the bill. Like a Space-Rock Rap album. Not to mention the lyrics are superb. Brilliant, if you ask me.
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Posted: October 10 2010 at 21:34
Pelata wrote:
I just want to say, and I know it's all taste and opinion and blah blah blah, but I think Kanye West is the single most overrated, overhyped, undertalented, worthless waste of studio time & airplay this side of P. Diddy...I hate that guys music...never have I seen a guy get so rich with so little talent.
haha...you put that down so well I had a real laugh
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My bad, I am a new member so I haven't seen those other posts, sorry for wasting everyones time. Still disgusting though.
Hell, you are not wasting my time. This kind of junk happens all the time. Especially in Electronic music. I don't want to dance to Electronic, I want to listen to it. Remember the golden days of the early Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze? But, you don't want to remember hearing excerpts from their early pieces in dance tunes now do ya? It's the kingdom of the DJ'S and their sampling concepts. It's the new modern artist taking on that role as well. Proggers argue with me and state that Electronic music sounds best this way. I then ask them....How would you feel if I sampled excerpts of your favorite prog band's compositions into dance club material? They should leave the party dance music to the B52'S because they know from a professional stand point, what the hell they are doing. This is a disease. It will eventually infect all styles of music in the world. Lets sample country songs by Hank Williams with a Go Go's tune. Lets sample The Wizard by Black Sabbath with a Disco Inferno Halloween dance party tune. Sure why not? Insult everybody while your at it. I thought everyone was suppose to express some type of art through their creations. Sample? Sample this!
Is it possible to die from taking yourself too seriously? Because if so somebody needs to look up this dude's address and send an ambulance to his house STAT.
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Posted: October 09 2010 at 03:27
I gotta say that Kanye West is over-rated and I don't like him as a rapper or singer. But the guy does have some serious chops as a producer. Love the work he did on this Diluted Peoples track:
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Posted: October 08 2010 at 23:41
I just want to say, and I know it's all taste and opinion and blah blah blah, but I think Kanye West is the single most overrated, overhyped, undertalented, worthless waste of studio time & airplay this side of P. Diddy...I hate that guys music...never have I seen a guy get so rich with so little talent.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 22:14
Kanye West is a great talent actually....808 & Heartbreaks a solid album and hey if KC gave him permission to use the song..................GET over it
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Wait till Lady Gaga does Scheherazade.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 21:03
stonebeard wrote:
This song is awesome. I like how the sample is actually off a bit, too.
Also, my thread on this subject was first and is probably the least dumb, so not to toot my own horn or anything but I'm f**king awesome.
Also, Endtroducing is a good album but I somehow don't think it can hold its own against a truly great non-sample album. I can't get around the fact that he took other people stuff and mashed it together, no matter how cleverly it was done and how cool the end product is.
Also, that album isn't even rap and barely feels like hip-hop.
Well, I already addressed my point about comparing two completely different musical styles. I don't think it's fair to do so, since a Hip-Hop artist isn't going for the same thing a Rock musician is.
And the album is indeed considered Hip-Hop. Experimental, or Instrumental Hip-Hop, perhaps, but still Hip-Hop. The idea was to show himtroy that not all Hip-Hop sounds alike. And you can check out the other records I listed in that post to further see my point. Each of them have their own sound, and talk about different things. Hell, Wyclef Jean even plays live guitar-- pretty damn well, too!
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 17:11
rushfan4 wrote:
Oh, OK. Katy Perry filmed a part for Sesame Street, but it was deemed that she was dressed too inappropriately for 3 - 6 year olds so it ended up being cut from the show. The video is on YouTube, so that is what I was linking to, and referring to.
Yes I see the link...can't watch for copyright reasons. Will be the same on Youtube I guess. Will check it out tomorrow. Bedtime.
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Posted: October 07 2010 at 17:06
This song is awesome. I like how the sample is actually off a bit, too.
Also, my thread on this subject was first and is probably the least dumb, so not to toot my own horn or anything but I'm f**king awesome.
Also, Endtroducing is a good album but I somehow don't think it can hold its own against a truly great non-sample album. I can't get around the fact that he took other people stuff and mashed it together, no matter how cleverly it was done and how cool the end product is.
Also, that album isn't even rap and barely feels like hip-hop.
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