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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:22 |
I have faith that there will be more breakthroughs in music... I
don't think that all that can be explored has been explored...
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:15 |
Yeah but look, what about stuff like "7th son...", "Somewhere in Time" or "Brave New World"? I woulden't get to know them
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FishyMonkey
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:13 |
Previous 100 years. There's so much stuff I love from the past 100
years. Hell, I'd be happy wiht just all of Porcupine Tree, YES, King
Crimson, Opeth, Pain of Salvation and Dream Theater work. I'd end up
expanding of course though.
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Manunkind
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:31 |
Man Overboard wrote:
Did Maiden retire? Dance Of Death was good, despite the bad cover. |
Maiden won't retire until they look like Eddy.
Which shouldn't be long now...
Edited by ProgLucky
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:29 |
Did Maiden retire? Dance Of Death was good, despite the bad cover.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:13 |
Manunkind wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I'm gonna live dangerous and go B!................Hey what happened to the stereo! |
I'm choosing A but PLEASE, PLEASE make the cut-off tomorrow (or Tuesday, to be on the safe side) - Monday's the official release day of "Octavarium"!
It would probably take me 100 years to earn enough money to buy or to otherwise get all the music I'd want to hear anyway...
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WORD. I'd choose B (starting from today), soI'd get Octavarium and the other DT stuff. But then i'd never hear Maiden... ehmmm.... This is a really hard one....
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:00 |
greenback wrote:
choice B is for teenagers
choose Jethro Tull "A" |
1969: Prog rock is for teenagers!
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:54 |
tuxon wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...
I'm going to have to choose B. Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.
Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...
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music that interests me the most comes from the past 40 years.
The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz. However, I'm
willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next 100.
Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or close to
peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King Crimson,
Yes, Genesis, and other favorites. But.. who knows what's
to come?
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There
is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point out.
Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely you
would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired over
the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok, I
like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.
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There is a logical mistake in your argument there baldJean
You would have 100 years to acquire a taste in music |
But would the music be prog then? Could you like prog at all without
any knowledge of any of its influences? And, what's more, wouldn't it
be a rather dull choice to vote for prog only?
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Jared
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:47 |
tuxon wrote:
But I don't want to live for another 100 years, oh the agony of having to deal with this earthly hell for another 100 years
But if the choise have to be made I'd choose the latter. All new music, I also like to live dangerously
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Hey Tuxon.. its only an earthly hell because you live in an overpopulated little country, where there are no hills, all the cheese is tasteless and you allow your kids to put little chocolate 'hundreds and thousands' on their bread at breakfast time.
Escape now while you are still young and emigrate to Belgium!!
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Manunkind
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:39 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I'm gonna live dangerous and go B!................Hey what happened to the stereo! |
I'm choosing A but PLEASE, PLEASE make the cut-off tomorrow (or Tuesday, to be on the safe side) - Monday's the official release day of "Octavarium"!
It would probably take me 100 years to earn enough money to buy or to otherwise get all the music I'd want to hear anyway...
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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greenback
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:36 |
choice B is for teenagers
choose Jethro Tull "A"
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:43 |
tuxon wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...
I'm going to have to choose B. Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.
Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...
The
music that interests me the most comes from the past 40 years.
The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz. However, I'm
willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next 100.
Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or close to
peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King Crimson,
Yes, Genesis, and other favorites. But.. who knows what's
to come?
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There
is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point out.
Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely you
would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired over
the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok, I
like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.
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There is a logical mistake in your argument there baldJean
You would have 100 years to acquire a taste in music |
Quite true! When Kansas opened the door to me, I was an innocent
kid. Hearing something like The Flower Kings would've surely done
the same, as they have the same complex, experimental, symphonic
elements that attracted me to Kansas in the first place.
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tuxon
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:37 |
BaldJean wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...
I'm going to have to choose B. Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.
Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...
The music that interests me the most comes from the past 40 years. The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz. However, I'm willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next 100. Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or close to peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and other favorites. But.. who knows what's to come?
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There is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point out. Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely you would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired over the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok, I like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.
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There is a logical mistake in your argument there baldJean
You would have 100 years to acquire a taste in music
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:30 |
Man Overboard wrote:
After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...
I'm going to have to choose B. Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.
Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...
The music that interests me the most comes from the past 40
years. The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz.
However, I'm willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next
100. Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or
close to peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King
Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and other favorites. But.. who knows
what's to come?
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There is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point
out. Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely
you would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired
over the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok,
I like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:25 |
Man Overboard wrote:
b) Listen ONLY to music made from now until 100 years in the future. The start date is TODAY. You will have no memory of previous music, only the music that exists from today, onward.
These choices only impact you. Forthcoming artists will still be influenced by past artists and put out the music they'd put out anyway, should you choose the latter.
Can you decide?
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Definitely b, because I'll get the past 100 years through their influence on the artists. I'm currently in a similar state as far as some 70s prog bands are concerned. I only listen to Yes, Genesis or Gentle Giant through bands like Spock's Beard, because I never find the time to listen to the classics.
It's a nice question, well done!
P.S.: Please don't use my Spock's Beard comment to start a 70s/90s war here, there's a whole Spock's Beard thread "next door".
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:24 |
barbs wrote:
I'd take the last 100. Even though I'd miss out on anything new (some people say there is nothing new under the sun anyway) I really believe that we have lived through the greatest changes we are going to see. So much music today is derivative and thats not to say that someone cannot be original, however it stands to reason that everyone does what Isaac Newton recognised in science and mathematics, when he said that 'if I have seen further it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants.' He was just recognising and respecting the work that had come before. The 'giants' of prog rock owe alot to the forefathers of their musical era as well.
Anyway I would be happy to regurgitate an already abundant supply of music cause I like blues, jazz, symphprog, progmetal etc. Have you ever heard Aaron Neville sing Ave Maria. It is a sublime experience. Anita Baker, Miles Davis, Mr John, john coltrane, sonny rollins. Everything from Yes, to Dead Soul Tribe. I love DT and PT stuff as well as Muse. So I am a happy camper right now. I think we have truly been blessed and yep a renaissance of sorts in the last ten years.
Besides, you never said anything about making your own music and I sing and play acc guitar and piano so, if I ever get bored with listening for awhile, I can do that. |
Brave
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MorgothSunshine
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:12 |
JCProg wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
b) Listen ONLY to music made from now until 100 years in the future. The start date is TODAY. You will have no memory of previous music, only the music that exists from today, onward. |
If I have no memory of previous music, I can't really miss anything, can I? So, I choose B. |
Correct answer!
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For every truth even the contrary is true...
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barbs
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:04 |
I'd take the last 100. Even though I'd miss out on anything new (some
people say there is nothing new under the sun anyway) I really believe
that we have lived through the greatest changes we are going to see. So
much music today is derivative and thats not to say that someone cannot
be original, however it stands to reason that everyone does what Isaac
Newton recognised in science and mathematics, when he said that 'if I
have seen further it is because I have stood on the shoulders of
giants.' He was just recognising and respecting the work that had come
before. The 'giants' of prog rock owe alot to the forefathers of their
musical era as well.
Anyway I would be happy to regurgitate an already abundant supply of
music cause I like blues, jazz, symphprog, progmetal etc.
Have you ever heard Aaron Neville sing Ave Maria. It is a sublime
experience. Anita Baker, Miles Davis, Mr John,
john coltrane, sonny rollins. Everything from Yes, to Dead Soul Tribe.
I love DT and PT stuff as well as Muse. So I am a happy camper right
now. I think we have truly been blessed and yep a renaissance of sorts
in the last ten years.
Besides, you never said anything about making your own music and I sing
and play acc guitar and piano so, if I ever get bored with listening
for awhile, I can do that.
Edited by barbs
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JCProg
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:00 |
Man Overboard wrote:
b) Listen ONLY to music made from now until 100 years in the future. The start date is TODAY. You will have no memory of previous music, only the music that exists from today, onward. |
If I have no memory of previous music, I can't really miss anything, can I? So, I choose B.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 08:46 |
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