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Posted: February 14 2014 at 21:31
Slartibartfast wrote:
Ugh, I've got McKay/Manzanera Up In Smoke from many years ago. It's
awful. hahahaha Phil has been doing some great solo stuff though. And
the last Ferry album, Olympia is excellent. BTW the top 5 or 10 - everything on Viva.
Mackay isn't known so much for being a Prog giant for his work, although listening through to his Eddie Riff album, there is a definite crossover prog vibe to this work, and it is cool to hear him sing a couple of tracks.
He is currently working with an ensemble called 'The Metaphors', and from the few clips I've heard they sound really good. Worth looking into. He even has a few 'hot' chicks playing concert harp and keyboards. What he added to Roxy was absolutely priceless.
Oh yeah, original Roxy drummer, Paul Thompson, is his current drummer !!
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Posted: February 11 2014 at 19:43
BOGUS MAN, IN EVERY DREAMHOME....., THE THRILL OF IT ALL, CASANOVA, AMAZONA, 2HB, END OF THE LINE, SPIN ME ROUND, TRUE TO LIFE, &THE MAIN THING, to round it to 10.
Why? Nothing comes close to this kind of musical universe. Then and now, always ahead, never on time. The mark of geniuses.
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Posted: February 11 2014 at 13:13
"Avalon" was the first compact disc I ever saw. My dad bought a CD player in 1985 and got "Avalon" at the same time. We'd already played the vinyl copy (and other albums of theirs) to death. He was a pretty big Roxy fan at the time and it rubbed off on me. I think what I liked best from the early (first 4) albums was the unpredictability, the instability - hard rock guitar, tender piano, harsh or soothing sax, weird electronics, low growls and romantic croons could all happen at any moment. Not easy listening but not unpleasant either. The next few albums were a lot smoother but (at their best) benefited from a mature and sophisticated songwriting flair on the part of Ferry, Manzanera and Mackay. Avalon is a different story, but it's about as lovely as "new romantic" styled music gets.
5 favorite songs: 1. Just Like You 2. Three and Nine 3. Sunset 4. The Bogus Man 5. Strictly Confidential
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Posted: February 11 2014 at 11:45
Well, I am a devoted fanboy since the masterful debut , as I got that as a pre-release. I have never looked back since, convinced 100% of RM's progressive credentials (sorry Trane, we disagree again). They simply shocked the hippy-denim clad universe with some blazing material , foundations for many styles to come . In Every Dream Home and The Bogus Man (electronica) , while Editions of You , Re-Make/Re-Model and Do the Strand indicated to punkers the way ahead. In fact, there was constant 'progression' , the edgy Manifesto, the slick Flesh + Blood (a great album,sorry!) and the suave Avalon. One of the most influential bands ever.
1- Beauty Queen
2- My Only Love
3- If There's Something
4- Mother of Pearl
5- Ladytron
6- Sentimental Fool
7- In Every Dream Home
8- Avalon
9- Grey Lagoons
10- Song for Europe
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Posted: February 11 2014 at 10:59
Dean wrote:
1. everything off the first four albums - Country Life has some quite "Canterbury" moments.
2. Ferry, Manzanera, Mackay, Eno and Thompson. Though Jobson, Gustafson and Wetton helped.
3. it was because they were so radically different and excessive, melding Art Rock with glam and prog in equal amounts that looked nostalgically futuristic and futuristiclly nostalgic.
That works for me though I would mention several I like a lot:
In Every dream Home A heartache
Thrill of it All
Both Ends Burning
Mother Of Pearl
If There Is Something
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Posted: February 11 2014 at 05:30
Ugh, I've got McKay/Manzanera Up In Smoke from many years ago. It's
awful. hahahaha Phil has been doing some great solo stuff though. And
the last Ferry album, Olympia is excellent. BTW the top 5 or 10 - everything on Viva.
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 11 2014 at 05:32
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: February 11 2014 at 03:23
Dean wrote:
^ & ^^ - his Ride Of The Valkyries is a travesty
Finally got an LP copy of this Mackay solo for 5 bucks !! It's a decent listen, nothing outrageous. I can hear a bit of Roxy and early Eno stylings here and there. Great guest list, and some of Paul Thompson's most exciting drumming. Thompson and Roger Glover being the prominent rhythm section !!
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 05:18
Dean wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
^.......not forgetting that ENO was involved on both ........
Which brings us to the radical style changes between Here Come the Warm Jets and Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy and Another Green World that culminate in the rather magnificent Before and After Science (and here I am deliberately ignoring the whole ambient music thing and sticking to his vocal albums). Here Come the Warm Jets strikes me as being an angry and somewhat spite-filled album triggered by his departure from Roxy Music (thinking specifically of Blank Frank and Dead Finks).
All great albums (ignoring the ambient thing for sure). And is that a calliope on 'Put A Straw Under Baby' ??.............I saw a guy playing one of those on the steamboat 'Natchez' when I was in New Orleans last year. Unique instrument. I'm sure it's near the end of Crimso's 'In The Court...' track....
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 05:08
Tom Ozric wrote:
^.......not forgetting that ENO was involved on both ........
Which brings us to the radical style changes between Here Come the Warm Jets and Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy and Another Green World that culminate in the rather magnificent Before and After Science (and here I am deliberately ignoring the whole ambient music thing and sticking to his vocal albums). Here Come the Warm Jets strikes me as being an angry and somewhat spite-filled album triggered by his departure from Roxy Music (thinking specifically of Blank Frank and Dead Finks).
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 04:32
Tom Ozric wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ & ^^ - his Ride Of The Valkyries is a travesty
Thanks for that, Sir !! Travesty ?? - It reminds me of Robert Calvert's 'Lucky Leif & The Longships' - I happen to like that album very much. You may call that one a travesty as well .
Lucky Leif is good but I love "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters"
Yes, well, Lockheed whips Leif any day of the week. Viv Stanshall is a total comedian on the record, and the band members truly rock. I miss Calvert .
It's been a while since I've heard either album but from what I remember Luck Leif is a parody of several styles of american popular music (which is pretty much the epotome of everything I personally dislike in music) - if rap and hip-hop had been around in 1974 I'm sure that Captain Bob would have included that too. I would not call it a travesty in the way that Mackay's take on Wagner is, musical parody is a one trick pony with no lasting appeal, The Valkyries is not a parody, it's simply a horrible version. At the time Luck Lief reminded me of the Bonzos use of archaic musical styles for comedy effect rather than musical exploration, which is why Lockheed & the Starfighters is musically more satisfying for me, though the concept and storyline of both albums is typical Captain Bob brilliance. That they lead on to Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music and Quark, Strangeness and Charm is enough for me.
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 03:28
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ & ^^ - his Ride Of The Valkyries is a travesty
Thanks for that, Sir !! Travesty ?? - It reminds me of Robert Calvert's 'Lucky Leif & The Longships' - I happen to like that album very much. You may call that one a travesty as well .
Lucky Leif is good but I love "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters"
Yes, well, Lockheed whips Leif any day of the week. Viv Stanshall is a total comedian on the record, and the band members truly rock. I miss Calvert .
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 01:31
Tom Ozric wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ & ^^ - his Ride Of The Valkyries is a travesty
Thanks for that, Sir !! Travesty ?? - It reminds me of Robert Calvert's 'Lucky Leif & The Longships' - I happen to like that album very much. You may call that one a travesty as well .
Lucky Leif is good but I love "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters"
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Posted: August 16 2013 at 20:41
Dean wrote:
^ & ^^ - his Ride Of The Valkyries is a travesty
Thanks for that, Sir !! Travesty ?? - It reminds me of Robert Calvert's 'Lucky Leif & The Longships' - I happen to like that album very much. You may call that one a travesty as well .
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Posted: August 16 2013 at 20:31
AreYouHuman wrote:
^ I have it, and it’s quite good though it may be a little poppy for some, with instrumental versions of End of the World and The Long and Winding Road, but his sax work is tasty as always.
I heartily agree with those who think “Viva!” was one of the best live albums ever and that the band was at their proggiest there.
Regarding 'Viva!' - I notice it was recorded at 3 locations, and lists 4 bassists (Wetton, Gustafson, Wills & Maida). They must've taken on whoever was available on the night ?? Hard to tell who plays on what tracks. Excellent track-list all the way - it should've been a double-LP. This features the quintessential version of 'If There Is Something'. I just go bonkers when the song breaks down after Jobson's spot to Ferry's Wurlitzer jamming with Thompson's groove. Simple chord progression, sooo prog .
Andy's album has an incredible guest-list, I wish I had've bought a copy when I saw them often, many moons ago.
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Slartibartfast wrote:
'Avalon' was much better.
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