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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2009 at 11:26
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Well that seems a little harsh, and it may have been a function of the sound because at my show, the mellotron was almost inaudible. Though as you said, it didn't make a huge difference. I have one of their albums and as my review says, it's pure candy, but sometimes that's just what you're hungry for.
 


I don't think it is harsh Jay...  we celebrate groups everyday on this site that are no more clones of other groups and whose only claim to being progressive... is the lack being progressive and sounding like everyone else.

I know what you are saying about ear-candy... I live for it myself. That is my personal taste.. but there is objective side to looking at it.

They did sound like a 3rd rate DP knock-off with a twist... and probably why I enjoyed them as I did... as opposed to what came later. They were interesting.. and put on a great show and were extremely charismatic. and  if you are going to knock off a group... make it an interesting one at least. From a musical standpoint, I posted the impression I had..  the compositions were grade school quality..  no interplay between the keys and guitar which is the broth that makes heavy prog so tastey.  I enjoyed it.. but would never mistake them as anything other than an entertaining live act to watch with a Newcastle in hand.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 20:46
Well that seems a little harsh, and it may have been a function of the sound because at my show, the mellotron was almost inaudible. Though as you said, it didn't make a huge difference. I have one of their albums and as my review says, it's pure candy, but sometimes that's just what you're hungry for.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 18:32
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

 
If you don't enjoy Bigelf, you don't know what rock n' roll is all about. It's nothing innovative or brilliant but it sure as hades rocks!


oh that they do.. they do rock hard. I enjoyed the 'show' .. the music itself though wasn't exactly impressive. The best heavy prog bands like Deep Purple  know how to use the Hammond to complement the guitar and vise versa... and especially the interplay between the two.   Bigelf's keyboard parts just seemed like they were pasted in..look how he used the mellotron... no feel in the grand scheme of the music.  Loved to watch them and enjoyed their 'show' ..   a mix of Alice Cooper and a 3rd rate Deep Purple knock-off. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 12:05
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Dweezil worshipped all the shredders in the 80's and is very good himself. He was probably just as fast as Pertucci. I'm not kidding.
 
The two guitarists' musical vocabularies are a bit different (Dweezil doesn't sweep, he uses tapping differently, etc)
 
If you don't enjoy Bigelf, you don't know what rock n' roll is all about. It's nothing innovative or brilliant but it sure as hades rocks!


i saw a video of Dweezil playing on youtube i think, before Zappa Plays Zappa was formed, and he was ripping the fastest solo, i was proud Frank had such a gifted guitarist for a son.

on a technical level, he's much better than his father, but when i saw ZpZ, i could tell his style has been influenced by his dad, especially since the formation of ZpZ, Dweezil has said he has raided his dad's discography and just listened to everything. he's been able to get that gritty tone, that self-taught rawness on his guitar. of course IMO and probably everyone else's, FZ's strenght was composing......DUH

Dweezil better than Petrucci? that's a hard one. i honestly dont know how i could say who's the better guitarist. especially since ZpZ, for the most part, sticks to material from 72-77 and Hot Rats. Zappa's late 70s/80s stuff had some serious guitar parts, though not necessarily played by the man himself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 10:59
If you want a sample of how unbelievable ZpZ is, youtube "Echidna's Arf part 2." It's played at virtually every show and is just insanity. We got the full rendition of the "Black Page" also.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2009 at 10:52
Wow, nice pics!

It sounds like the DT show went well. I wish I could have been there....Cry

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 13:47
Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

 
If you don't enjoy Bigelf, you don't know what rock n' roll is all about. It's nothing innovative or brilliant but it sure as hades rocks!


I plead guilty. Not that Bigelf were bad, but I found the singer's voice very grating, and their music nothing special - even if normally I enjoy that kind of stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 13:06
Great Picture Dude.!! Thanks...  ( did anybody see me there giving flier of my collages?  ohh wait I did meet  few Young fellas from PA. I wasn't waisted yetLOL)
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 12:52
Dweezil worshipped all the shredders in the 80's and is very good himself. He was probably just as fast as Pertucci. I'm not kidding.
 
The two guitarists' musical vocabularies are a bit different (Dweezil doesn't sweep, he uses tapping differently, etc)
 
If you don't enjoy Bigelf, you don't know what rock n' roll is all about. It's nothing innovative or brilliant but it sure as hades rocks!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2009 at 12:37
Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

I'm going all the way to Las Vegas to see them perform live this friday (August 28th)
 
Not really looking forward to Zappa or Big elf but who knows, should be good in any case, although I'm sure it wont top last year.
 
Believe Isn't only TD that will enjoy. I was just like you with Zappa. but I was amazed how awesome Dewizel sounded and his band. superb sh*t! also Big Elf was excellent. Reminds me of Uriah Heep Meets Black Sabbath.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2009 at 16:08
I watched every minute of DT and enjoyed it. I hope the DT fans watch the other bands because they all have something different to offer. FWIW, the couple right in front of us had come to see Zappa Plays Zappa, asked us what DT were going to sound like. The best I could come up with "Sorta like Iron Maiden and Yes combined." In any case they really liked Dream Theater's set.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2009 at 05:56
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Fieldofsorrow Fieldofsorrow wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

yeah.... for all the sh*t we give DT...  give them props for spotlighting a band and music FAR more advanced and ..well... simply better in many ways than their own.  They were upstaged.   Funny thing is... I think they'd be the first to admit it, and that gets my respect. 


To be honest, I think they just see it as demonstrating the wide variety of prog that is available, not worrying about who upstages whom.


then they'd be the first band to be so self-righteous...  LOL   Do they worry.. of course not... they have a proven fanbase that will lap up whatever sh*t they release.

however don't tell me they didn't notice large segments of the crowd that that came for music, not to worship the group, walking out in the middle of their set....
 
I saw a few... maybe 5...
 
What i don't understand is what some people were doing there on the first place.... I mean, if they like to waste money, great for them that they love to go to concerts of bands they hate...
 


hahhaha... not sure about what you saw Teo....  the show we went to had 5 bands.. not 1.   The people that we walked with to the parking lot with were talking about how great ZpZ was.  I'd say they didn't waste money... we sure didn't.  LOL  We just saw the headliner a band early I guess.. and someone put an opening act on last hahha
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2009 at 02:09
I'm going all the way to Las Vegas to see them perform live this friday (August 28th)
 
Not really looking forward to Zappa or Bigelf but who knows, should be good in any case, although Im sure it wont top last year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2009 at 02:02
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Well, it wouldn't have surprised them to see people leaving. We all know they're a very unpopular band, as do they. But yeah, quite a waste of money. Not particularly respectful, either, but then again, we are dealing with Dream Theater.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2009 at 18:49
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Fieldofsorrow Fieldofsorrow wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

yeah.... for all the sh*t we give DT...  give them props for spotlighting a band and music FAR more advanced and ..well... simply better in many ways than their own.  They were upstaged.   Funny thing is... I think they'd be the first to admit it, and that gets my respect. 


To be honest, I think they just see it as demonstrating the wide variety of prog that is available, not worrying about who upstages whom.


then they'd be the first band to be so self-righteous...  LOL   Do they worry.. of course not... they have a proven fanbase that will lap up whatever sh*t they release.

however don't tell me they didn't notice large segments of the crowd that that came for music, not to worship the group, walking out in the middle of their set....
 
I saw a few... maybe 5...
 
What i don't understand is what some people were doing there on the first place.... I mean, if they like to waste money, great for them that they love to go to concerts of bands they hate...
 
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2009 at 17:49
Originally posted by Fieldofsorrow Fieldofsorrow wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

yeah.... for all the sh*t we give DT...  give them props for spotlighting a band and music FAR more advanced and ..well... simply better in many ways than their own.  They were upstaged.   Funny thing is... I think they'd be the first to admit it, and that gets my respect. 


To be honest, I think they just see it as demonstrating the wide variety of prog that is available, not worrying about who upstages whom.


then they'd be the first band to be so self-righteous...  LOL   Do they worry.. of course not... they have a proven fanbase that will lap up whatever sh*t they release.

however don't tell me they didn't notice large segments of the crowd that that came for music, not to worship the group, walking out in the middle of their set....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2009 at 16:48
35 days and I'll see them! Can't wait.
Here, in Europe, the supporting bands are Unexpect, Bigelf and Opeth.

I haven't checked Unexpect yet, but as far as I read people love it or hate it and it's pure avant-garde metal.

For Bigelf, I've heard two albums so far, and I agree with all you say about their style. I'm sure they are going to be a nice warm up band before the main show.

Opeth - although I know only three albums, I really like them. We have a pretty strong fan base here in Poland. I know some people bough the tickets for the show mainy to see Opeth, not DT. Opeth will for sure give us more than an hour of great music.

But as I said before, DT is the main course. The setlists from previous shows aren't bad, I think. I pray for Beyond This Life, which is my Theatre's favourite from their heavier stuff, and Hollow Years, just to hear Petrucci's extended solo, which is my fav guitar part ever for now.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2009 at 01:59
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

yeah.... for all the sh*t we give DT...  give them props for spotlighting a band and music FAR more advanced and ..well... simply better in many ways than their own.  They were upstaged.   Funny thing is... I think they'd be the first to admit it, and that gets my respect. 


To be honest, I think they just see it as demonstrating the wide variety of prog that is available, not worrying about who upstages whom.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 17:16
^Well, unexpected for me...
 
And yes, I hope you people realize that DT is always ready to promote less-popular bands like your own ZpZ or 3 last year... Not many famous acts do that...
 
They do more for the promotion of prog(metal) that constantly whine about them...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2009 at 15:51
 
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

The next choice was unexpected. After an excellent slow solo by Petrucci, a solo full of FEELING for those who call the guy "cold", "Hollow Years" from FII started.


Why was it unexpected? They did play it on almost all of the European shows this year (luckily, also here in Budapest).

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