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crimhead
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 12:57 |
Blacksword wrote:
crimhead wrote:
It might start when Israel goes after Iran.
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I think that's the most likely scenario. If it reaches crisis point with Irans nuclear program, Israel wont wait for a green light from Washington either. |
I am hoping if that happens China will sit back and not go after us. They need us as much as we need them. Russia on the other hand has little to lose in all of this.
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 12:47 |
crimhead wrote:
It might start when Israel goes after Iran.
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I think that's the most likely scenario. If it reaches crisis point with Irans nuclear program, Israel wont wait for a green light from Washington either.
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crimhead
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 12:28 |
It might start when Israel goes after Iran.
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Vompatti
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 12:06 |
Whatever. I'm only going to participate as a helpless civilian.
Edited by Vompatti - April 28 2009 at 12:07
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 11:14 |
I think a global conflict is inevitable. Probably over resources, but under the disguise of fighting against terror.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 04:25 |
limeyrob wrote:
As mankind is so deadset on destroying the planet I don't another war would matter one way or the other. |
If we have another it will likely be as a consequence of that. War over food or water most likely.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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limeyrob
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Posted: April 28 2009 at 04:21 |
As mankind is so deadset on destroying the planet I don't another war would matter one way or the other.
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stonebeard
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 23:37 |
Interesting. My friends and I were discussing a week or so ago if the conditions and benefits were right for a revolution in light of the recent economic crisis. I have clearly mixed feelings about. I was somewhat playing Devil's Advocate by saying a Global Economic Depression would perhaps be a good thing for us (when I said "us" I meant Americans in general.) I have thoughts that are somewhat inspired by Marx, in that it seems to me that we're being separated too much from much feeling of worth in our lives by our current society, and that perhaps a depression would shock us back into caring for things that matter. The reason I specified that it be global is that if it were only in the USA, the "western ethos" of credit, debt, no-boundaries capitalism, and malaise would still be intact in other countries, plus the added detriment of the USA being set back while other countries advance technologically, which would have negative consequences in the long run for my country, perhaps. In retrospect, it wouldn't really matter because it seems an economic crisis for the US = an economic crisis for the whole world.
Clearly, I'm pretty insane. But I should ask: is the position society is in now good or bad? And if bad, how do we fix that? I think we have warped values brought on by literally living through machines. But is that just a growing pain that will eventually be overcome by technological advance, or is it like a cancer that won't get better, but must be killed? I don't know. Part of it wants me to be one way, and another part the other way. I am so restless. I almost want something crazy to happen just to break the monotony.
And for world war 3? Good luck trying to conscript me! Fight a war for rich old men sitting on the sidelines? Don't make me laugh. Dying is repugnant, but being forced to kill is even more repugnant. Interestingly, I'm toying with the impulse that killing of my own volition is less repugnant (say, in a revolution...killing those in power, for example). Somehow, I care less. I'm so post-modern. I guess this is what happens when all moral philosophy is unfulfilling and religion is hilariously soul-crushing.
What was I talking about again?
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tszirmay
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 21:47 |
Both WW1 and its completely predictable offspring WW2 were clashes between empires and resolved ultimately nothing . Europe's borders today are eerily similar to 1918 and yet millions died for nothing ! With the "Cold" war, the superpowers simply couldn't pull the trigger as it would have been apocalyptic. So what's left? Regional conflicts that have been the norm since 1945 (where more millions have died) but nothing can become global. In my opinion having studied this for 40 years or so, the Pakistan vs India scenario has always been perilous and always will be. If there is another major confrontation that will involve nukes, it will be there. There is no other nuclear country anywhere as dangerous, unpredictable and volatile as Pakistan (and to a lesser degree India).
Edited by tszirmay - April 27 2009 at 21:48
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Atavachron
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 21:45 |
I'm amazed your teacher would say such a thing.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 21:17 |
crimson87 wrote:
he said that a war is "needed" because mankind is suffering from stagnation and after the wars there are several technological innovations |
The same thing was said prior to World War I. Every idealist was jolly and chipper about a rejuvenating war that would enliven national spirits and undo the staid bourgeois placidity. Then the killing started. As for the innovations, they tend to come about accidentally (microwave from radar, anyone?) or because they're linked to killing machines. Is this really "needed"?
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mrcozdude
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 21:04 |
I Don't think WWIII will happen in the next twenty years but I'm sure we'll be involved in wars during that time. Though how big a war I don't know.I've watched many interesting documentary's about how war is profiteering and how we can benefit from them.
But depending on current and future elections I'm sure it wont be as bad as predticted.
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crimson87
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 20:56 |
Do you think a new world war will start in the following years?? Me and my classmates in college were having a discussion about this issue with our macroeconomics professor and he said that a war is "needed" because mankind is suffering from stagnation and after the wars there are several technological innovations , his main concern was the global food supply and land productivity.
I agree that mankind will face a global scale war in less than 20 years. What's your opinion about it???
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