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Lucent 
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 Posted: May 03 2009 at 10:40 |
There's nothing progressive about stealing music from Joe Satriani.
And for that reason alone, Coldplay can go die of a slow, torturous, horrible death, to the point of where description would make many throw up.
Edited by Lucent - May 03 2009 at 10:57
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docsolar
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Posted: April 27 2009 at 15:17 |
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Excellent post, Whistler. I agree with the love the band/hate the t-shirt sentiment I presume you share with me regarding bands like My Chem and Panic at the Disco.
I think being proggy had to become "OK" again for popular consumption (after the 80's and the grunge movement), and if a popular band perpetuates the sentiment, it's still good music, even if people like it.
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Prospero
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Posted: March 15 2009 at 22:51 |
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I love Cold Play.. I only liked Vida La Vida on the latest album |
Anyone mentioned they plagiarized the great Satch? You just don't do this kind of thing. Personally, I don't like Coldplay. I was not surprised to learn they were being sued by Joe Satriani. I was not surprised to learn they had won the Grammy for album of the year (Springsteen has 19 of them Grammys). Brian Eno? I was never impressed with his "production" skills either. I always enjoy the albums from a band (Talking Heads, Roxy Music) before Brian Eno and after. That's my own "before and after science". I mean, Fear of Music, what kind of a boring album is that!? Anyhow, I do like his solo projects (and *cough* Remain in Light *cough*). In conclusion, I hope we all forget Coldplay ever existed in 20 years while Rhino records will desperately be trying to re-release their discography with 67 bonus tracks.
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lextruther
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Posted: March 02 2009 at 16:50 |
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I love Cold Play.. I only liked Vida La Vida on the latest album
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keiser willhelm
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Posted: March 02 2009 at 04:52 |
did you read the original post? 
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progkidjoel
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Posted: March 02 2009 at 04:34 |
im pretty sure cold play are NOT prog rock. They are boring and bleak, and unoriginal, evident in thier clockwork drumming and ripoff of Joe Satriani's "If I Could Fly"
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pianoman
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 22:06 |
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I love Viva La Vida because it shows how art rock is starting to make a comeback. Other prime examples would be other modern giants such as Sigur Ros and Radiohead. Winning a grammy for music that sounds this experimental is a good sign, not a bad one. Viva La Vida is a very big step in bringing back art rock, even if it dosent sound the same as 30+ years ago. Progressive music does not have a specific sound, but it is a term used for musicians who step outside the boundaries and experiment with old ideas to combinde them and make new ones.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 20:00 |
The Whistler wrote:
Demonoid wrote:
Coldplay are meh imo.
You can compare them to Oasis.
They have some good songs here and there but thats about it.
The albums are inconsistent with filler/mediocre songs in between and it gets repetitive very often.
To tell the truth though, i liked 'viva la vida' more than their previous works. It sounded quite different.
If you guys want a prog. album in the sense, a different album from a pop band, then check out Narrow Stairs by Death Cab For Cutie. Sounds a lot different from the 'Indie-pop' they are known for. Theres just something progressive about that album.
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Really now? I've only downloaded the album version of "I Will Possess Your Heart," but then again, I jumped on the Death Cab bandwagon with everyone else and that stupid Plans album. |
Hey now! I got into Death Cab around the time of The Photo Album, and today I still think Plans and Transatlanticism are pretty good, though I rarely listen to them. I thought their new album was pretty boring.
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Say what you will, I thought Parachutes was considerably stronger than Viva la Vida - as far as songwriting is concerned. Having said that, neither is exactly my cuppa tea, but I do think they're one of the better mainstream rock bands out there.
I'm a bit baffled as to the prog aspect of Viva la Vida - I seem to have missed it completely. 
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I still adore Parachutesm and I agree that it's their strongest. There are only minor traces of prog elements in the arrangements and what not. So minor I wouldn't even use the term when describing it. However, for altering their sound and scope considerably, they are definitely resembling a progressive band in that regard.
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Jimbo
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 15:19 |
Say what you will, I thought Parachutes was considerably stronger than Viva la Vida - as far as songwriting is concerned. Having said that, neither is exactly my cuppa tea, but I do think they're one of the better mainstream rock bands out there. I'm a bit baffled as to the prog aspect of Viva la Vida - I seem to have missed it completely.
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ProgShine
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 09:22 |
There's ALWAYS prog influence in all the smart bands, they just don't talk about it (unless it's Pink Floyd this one you could talk about always, even if you don't get ANY closer of their sound, always a influence) because it's 'a shame' to like the 70's excess in nowadays.
Silverchair it's a damn good point in this case. 
And in the end... yeah, i like Coldplay, even if i listen to theis music too little (my sister use to listen so, I kinda 'listen it too much' hehehe)
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angelmk
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 12:15 |
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oh no, oh no, not coldplay, that music makes me feel sleepy, disapointed , sadness, that chris martin ,that voice i cannot stand
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SgtPepper67
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Posted: January 23 2009 at 20:51 |
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Your post is too long and I only read half of it ;)
but anyway, I think Viva la vida is a pretty good album, one of my favourite last year. I wasn't a big fan of Coldplay. I liked their first album, and I was very much into britpop back then (I'm still are actually) so it's no surprise. The 2nd was ok but I got bored of it very quickly, and then I hated the X&Gay album, maybe in part because they were completely overrated and completely overplayed by the media, but I also thought thir music wasn't that interesting really. Then, I downloaded Viva la vida last year with very low expectations, even knowing that Eno produced but I liked it a lot. I can't tell exactly why, probably the production helps a lot to make the song more interesting, but also the melodies and arrangements are better in my opinion. I also think Chris Martin don't overuse his annoying falsetto that much on this one, wich is probably what makes it more listenable for me.
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bryantm3
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Posted: January 22 2009 at 18:11 |
Blacksword wrote:
Nice blog, sir.. 
I like the single. It's pretty good. What I've read about the album both here on these forums, and elsewhere also sounds promising. However, for me, a pattern has emerged with Coldplay. I have liked all their singles. I thought 'In my place' 'Clocks' and 'Yellow' were absolute pop classics. When I bought their respective albums, I was just left yawning by the end of it all. As far as all things commercial go, Coldplay aren't bad, but the principle of their musical template remianed basically unchanged for three albums IMO.
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i can personally vouch that this album beats the hell out of all their others. 'a rush of blood to the head' was one of the most disappointing, boring albums that i've ever heard. you remember how 'your own special way' was the big single off of 'wind and wuthering', but it was the worst song on the album? well, violet hill is the worst song on this album. it's not genesis or anything, but it's pretty proggy. my favourite song on it is probably "yes", it sounds celtic, like 'in that quiet earth' but in a different way. you'll enjoy it.
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ProgShine
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Posted: July 22 2008 at 00:59 |
Definitelly, Coldplay is such a good band, the material (not the singles, they're not bad, but they have such better material) are all great, a mellon collie (hehe) is in all tracks most
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SilverAnubis
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 08:04 |
The single, Violet Hill, remembers me Porcupine Tree, I know, I'm crazy...
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Abstrakt
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 06:37 |
I kinda like their songs from their new album. Alt. rock is cool! 
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Starette
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 05:44 |
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Oh dear- Kill me now....for spelling two words in that last post wrongly.
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50 tonne angel falls to the earth...
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Starette
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 05:43 |
Coldplay was the band that lifted me out of my dreary days of being surROUNDed by idotic girls listening to generic-music in my teenage years.
And I know that they're wannabes, and I know that they plagarise, and I know that Chris Martin is rather pretentious....
But who cares. Their first album, Parachutes, was beautiful to mine ears and they slowly got poppier after that but I still kept a sentimental and honest love of them. Most of their songs anyway. The chordal progression of the song X & Y on the album of the same name is of note. And yes- it's proggy.
They're latest album I don't have.
But eeeeveryone's going on about their latest album.
Sure Violet Hill sounds a bit more rocky than they're usual tone but it doesn't really strike me as such...
but maybe I should get into it because curiosity kills my cat.
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50 tonne angel falls to the earth...
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The Whistler
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Posted: July 15 2008 at 04:29 |
Demonoid wrote:
Coldplay are meh imo.
You can compare them to Oasis.
They have some good songs here and there but thats about it.
The albums are inconsistent with filler/mediocre songs in between and it gets repetitive very often.
To tell the truth though, i liked 'viva la vida' more than their previous works. It sounded quite different.
If you guys want a prog. album in the sense, a different album from a pop band, then check out Narrow Stairs by Death Cab For Cutie. Sounds a lot different from the 'Indie-pop' they are known for. Theres just something progressive about that album.
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Really now? I've only downloaded the album version of "I Will Possess Your Heart," but then again, I jumped on the Death Cab bandwagon with everyone else and that stupid Plans album.
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: July 13 2008 at 23:24 |
Alt. rock!
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