Dragon Force?

They are not prog... they are maybe remotely related to prog-related, which means they are NOT prog. In fact: it's difficult to find prog-elements in their music.

I think we should avoid using terms like "merit" or "good enough to be considered" like "Prog" is some sort of achievement past being a sub-genre of Rock n Roll. Just look around there is a lot of badly conceived, poorly executed, derivative, uncreative lousy wastes of recording time bands on here that are "good enough to be considered" Prog. So it has nothing to do with talent, creativity or an ability to think outside the box, it is a codified style.

Dragonforce is cool but are not Prog. They are not Prog for the same reason they are Power Metal; fast rapid beat drums under soaring guitars with quick lead solos and operatic vocals all culminating in a "happy" positive tone. This is not Prog! There is no Jazz base, the Classical influence comes purely from the metal world and they claim no influence from Progressive Rock. This site has too many bands that mislead people into what Prog really is (or at least what 99% of the world outside this site know what Prog really is.)

Edited by Jim Garten - January 22 2008 at 03:15

Elderscrollsfan wrote: Salmacis, I know you don't really like Dragonforce, I'm not really a fan either, and very few deny that their music is a tad cheesy, but this isn't qualityprogarchives.com, it's progarchives.com, and all progressive music deserves a place here, whether it's good or not.  Dragonforce's music is at least a bit progressive, so there's really no reason to leave them out.  Besides, if that's what the people want, why not?

Edited by salmacis - December 07 2007 at 12:46

I cant really comprehend what goes down in a Dragon Force tune. But for some reason it makes want to get up and finally beat that last level in Mario.

i liked them for a while a couple years ago, but for me the novelty just wore off really quickly and i got extremely sick of them. now i listen to a song from time to time if i need something to laugh at but that's it. 

The Wizard wrote: Wow, the more I read about this band the more terrible they get. [IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

Salmacis, I know you don't really like Dragonforce, I'm not really a fan either, and very few deny that their music is a tad cheesy, but this isn't qualityprogarchives.com, it's progarchives.com, and all progressive music deserves a place here, whether it's good or not.  Dragonforce's music is at least a bit progressive, so there's really no reason to leave them out.  Besides, if that's what the people want, why not?

Wow, the more I read about this band the more terrible they get.

Sometimes music doesn't need to be deep. Dragonforce is incredibly fun to listen to. I like complex lyrics, but occasionally you need to bang your head to AC/DC or Dragonforce

I wish I could see Dragonforce play live, then my life would be fully complete. They are playing in Moscow at my birthday, but I don't live in Moscow anymore.