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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Crimsonsnowdog Crimsonsnowdog wrote:

Hendrix was also very fond of progressive rock, as he was seriously considering joining Emerson, lake and Palmer before he died. They were scheduled to have a rehearsal ,and were going to call the band Hendrix, Emerson, Lake and Palmer or HELP. That would've made for some pretty cool jam sessions.
 

initially Emerson and Lake wanted Hendrix and Mitchell but then came Carl Palmer and it all changed.

Emerson dedicated The Barbarian to Hendrix. He ( Emerson) likened Purple Haze to a Bela Bartok piece.


Despite being routinely and regularly debunked over the years by those directly involved, this fictitious story just never seems to go away. Emerson and Lake did want to audition Mitch Mitchell as their drummer but he turned up with two (heavily armed) heavies as bodyguards so Keith and Greg decided Mitch maybe wasn't the sort of chap they had in mind. Mitch advised that Hendrix would love to jam with Emerson and Lake as he was a big fan of Keith's playing. This never transpired. It seems it's not only the press that couldn't resist the HELP acronym?
 

indeed although because of that it more likely have been ELP&H a la CSN&Y
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Hi,

Not to take anything away from Jimi, who is without a doubt one of the greatest ever at his electric guitar ... if I may ask one dumb question ... why is it that YOU need someone else's opinion before you YOURSELF realize ... this guy is good ... when compared to others?

When you have heard 100 guitarists play different things, if you can not make a distinction as to what is good, great and better, you are not listening ... you are stuck on a favorite song instead. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

(Try this ... write the names of 100 guitarists and go listen to at least 15 of their pieces ... now sit down and evaluate what you heard ... Jimi is great, but to say that others are not, is impossibly wrong and out of touch with the quality of the work on an electric guitar for 65 years!)

Jimi opened the doors to a lot of new "music", although some of it was already there, but not quite to the extend of Michael J. Fox ... which would have really burned down the house in those days ... and helped further the guitar sooner than Jimi more than likely. 

While I would probably accept Robert's comments, within the context of music theory and its design, I would think that Robert does not need to mention anyone ... Jimi, was "wild" compared to more refined guitarists out there ... he had a touch for the unusual that no one worked on at the time that we were aware of ... but that's like saying that others did not do similar/different things that would also qualify, if we had heard it ... !!!!!
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^ I think I meant it (jamming) never transpired after Keith and Greg's meeting with Mitchell. I was aware of the abandoned collaboration on Axis Bold as Love  and there is clearly abundant testimony to them having played together previously both from your cited source and Keith's autobiography which confirms they improvised together during a 16-date UK package tour in '67 (including the Move, Pink Floyd and Amen Corner - what a line up and all for 75p, shame I was just 5 years old at the time....)

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^ That is the true version as I've read many accounts from the participants, but one thing I would add. I have the book "Ultimate Hendrix", and despite the cheezy title, it is just a day to day studio log by Eddie Kramer in which he documents the daily studio activities of Hendrix.

One entry that shows up now and again is 'Keith Emerson came over and jammed'. Keith was supposed to play on "Axis Bold as Love", but the record company moved the release date up and keith was on tour during that time and was unable to be on the recording.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Crimsonsnowdog Crimsonsnowdog wrote:

Hendrix was also very fond of progressive rock, as he was seriously considering joining Emerson, lake and Palmer before he died. They were scheduled to have a rehearsal ,and were going to call the band Hendrix, Emerson, Lake and Palmer or HELP. That would've made for some pretty cool jam sessions.
 

initially Emerson and Lake wanted Hendrix and Mitchell but then came Carl Palmer and it all changed.

Emerson dedicated The Barbarian to Hendrix. He ( Emerson) likened Purple Haze to a Bela Bartok piece.


Despite being routinely and regularly debunked over the years by those directly involved, this fictitious story just never seems to go away. Emerson and Lake did want to audition Mitch Mitchell as their drummer but he turned up with two (heavily armed) heavies as bodyguards so Keith and Greg decided Mitch maybe wasn't the sort of chap they had in mind. Mitch advised that Hendrix would love to jam with Emerson and Lake as he was a big fan of Keith's playing. This never transpired. It seems it's not only the press that couldn't resist the HELP acronym?
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Originally posted by Crimsonsnowdog Crimsonsnowdog wrote:

Hendrix was also very fond of progressive rock, as he was seriously considering joining Emerson, lake and Palmer before he died. They were scheduled to have a rehearsal ,and were going to call the band Hendrix, Emerson, Lake and Palmer or HELP. That would've made for some pretty cool jam sessions.

If true, that would have been perfect.

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Originally posted by Crimsonsnowdog Crimsonsnowdog wrote:

Hendrix was also very fond of progressive rock, as he was seriously considering joining Emerson, lake and Palmer before he died. They were scheduled to have a rehearsal ,and were going to call the band Hendrix, Emerson, Lake and Palmer or HELP. That would've made for some pretty cool jam sessions.
 

initially Emerson and Lake wanted Hendrix and Mitchell but then came Carl Palmer and it all changed.

Emerson dedicated The Barbarian to Hendrix. He ( Emerson) likened Purple Haze to a Bela Bartok piece.
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Hendrix was also very fond of progressive rock, as he was seriously considering joining Emerson, lake and Palmer before he died. They were scheduled to have a rehearsal ,and were going to call the band Hendrix, Emerson, Lake and Palmer or HELP. That would've made for some pretty cool jam sessions.
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I also heard that story about Hendrix saying Crimson was great....I also read that in the very earl;y days some managers wanted The Moody Blues to tour with Crimson but The Moodies declined, Hayward saying that he thought they were too good and would make The Moodies look less compared to Crimson.
Also Pete Townsend wrote a very favorable piece (an awestruck attitude) about them for The Melody Maker I believe after he first saw them live. 


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^ I tried finding them again and nothing came up except a Soft Machine jam with Jimi on bass. I know I listened to them though, I believe they were a Robert Wyatt CD of rough recordings, just jam sessions. I'll try looking more later.
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Does anyone know if those jam sessions can be bought on cd...?
I did a brief search and nothing showed up on Amazon ,etc.
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Jimi is a genius...for many reasons. Over the past 30yrs I have realized how brilliant King Crimson is also. One thing that I notice about Jimi is he was a big fan of his peers.
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On the Hendrix and Robert Wyatt jam sessions that were released not too long ago, on some songs, you can hear Hendrix trying out some Fripp styled solos and chord progressions. The two guitarists were definitely an influence on each other. Also, after Crimson's famous Hyde Park Concert, didn't Hendrix get up on stage and congratulate them?
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Hendrix was already looking to tap into that math rock psyche.

Imagine if Hendrix and Miles Davis got together (I think it was loosely planned via management)?

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I remember reading something like Hendrix asking Fripp to shake his left hand, "because it is closer to my heart".
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^ Maybe, but at that time, I believe it is more than probable Jimi would've meant every word.   Sure his opinion might've changed from time to time, but knowing Hendix's admiration of well-organized bands doing intricate music, his propensity for intonation, etc., this story sounds accurate.
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There are approximately 1000 stories about Jimi Hendrix saying this band was great or this guitarist was the greatest (Rory Gallagher, Roy Buchanan, etc.). I think Hendrix was just genuinely a nice guy who said good things about everyone.

What can't be denied is that Hendrix overwhelmed nearly everyone he played with, to the point where Eric Clapton nearly lost his mind when Hendrix walked up on stage to play with Cream. An embarrassed Clapton said later to Chas Chandler,‘You never told me he was that f*cking good.’ Two weeks later, “when Cream appeared at The Marquee Club, Clapton was sporting a frizzy perm and he left his guitar feeding back against the amp, just as he’d seen Jimi do.”
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And he was right.
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