If You're New to Prog, Don't Start With Rush |
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Guldbamsen
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Who wants to be normal anyway? I guess everyone until they realise no such thing exists. As for the op? Nonsense. If you're a rock n roll fan that comes from a healthy diet of Led Zeppelin and Iron Maiden then there is a good chance Rush is THE band to start out your prog rock journey. Conversely, if you're a sucker for the contemporary rock scene and the older indie stuff, then you should probably look into the modern scene and acts such as Porcupine Tree, Pure Reason Revolution, Pineapple Thief, Airbag, Himmellegeme, Sigur Ros and so forth. But yeah, if you have an allergic reaction to high pitched male vocals and hard rocking guitar riffs, then it's probably wise to stay clear of Rush. Maybe start out with some Amon Düül ll instead |
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^Mmm..I never give it much thought but listening to prog must cost more then listening to straight rock genres. All those Steve Wilson remixes and the endless parade of box sets!
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Mascodagama
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The proposition in the thread title becomes better if you remove the words “with Rush”. Getting into prog - why would a person even want to do that? A huge drain on your time (those 20 minute epics won't listen to themselves) and financial resources (yeah, I really do need to drop £30 on that reissue CD of the first Lambert Simnel's Astrolabe LP with the booklet missing, it might never come up on Discogs again!). And all to no tangible benefit, unless you count having friends and family look at you as a harmless but sad and deluded eccentric / potentially dangerous madman and probable pervert as a 'benefit'.
Personally I wish they'd find a cure for it. Edited by Mascodagama - April 28 2018 at 03:16 |
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Frenetic Zetetic
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My father always tells me nobody called it "prog rock" during the prime time of the early to mid 70's. He said everyone just called everything rock and roll with a twist, lol.
Super jealous that he was basically a stone's throw from Jon Anderson and the rest of Yes on the CTTE/Relayer tours that came through Boston...
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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richardh
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I really didn't like Rush in the seventies especially Hemispheres . Tom Sawyer did get me interested though. My basis taste at that time as a teenager was 'tacky'. I didn't like anything blues/hard rock based. Add a few synths and my ears pricked up. Loved ELP and Rick Wakeman straight off the bat. Age does make a difference though I'm sure. As a 15 year old these were perfect. Taste changes as you get older and you appreciate different things so it depends on that as well.
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Mortte
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^I become aware of term prog and what kind of music it is in the begin of eighties. What people think then about prog in Finland wasn´t very positive. My other brother told me it was stupid, too complex music. Anyway my oldest brother had liked Pink Floyd and he had recorded Time after Dire Straits Making Movies album, and when I heard that it hit me immediately! Still got few years I really started to interest prog, but that time I really didn´t care anymore what was commonly said although prog was still out of that time.
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Not necessarily. Although I had been listening to prog from about the mid '70s onward, I did not become aware of the terms "progressive rock", "prog", or even "art rock" until sometime during the '90s. I didn't really know what to call the music from such groups as Van der Graaf Generator. But that didn't stop me from getting into undeniably serious prog. |
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miamiscot
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I started with Yes and Pink Floyd.
What does that mean, I WONDER?
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I'm a self starter who starts starting things.
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"Hear me now and believe me later," I started with Tangerine Dream!
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Whether PF takes them to prog depends on two things. One ofcourse is they have to be familiar with Pink Floyd in the first place and be curious enough to want to explore further and look for other similar bands. The second is they have to have heard the term prog somehow(either through friends or relatives or through the internet). So basically they just have to add up these things in their head. Not everyone does though. I'm sure there's a lot of people who just think of PF as just classic rock and stop there. I have seen many articles online that don't even mention PF as one of the main prog bands so it just depends.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Isn't it crazy how you just start starting? I started with Yes .
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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Jeffro
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That's true. I started where I started and that's where I started.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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People start where they start, that's where they start!
I'd imagine most getting into Pink Floyd FIRST, regardless of whether the consensus is they constitute "progressive rock" or not. That's how it feels here in the North East USA, anyway.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Ok, so where should they start?
I actually am not sure where most people who are new to prog start these days. I suppose it depends on what they are already familiar with. I would think many would probably start with Pink Floyd since most people are probably already at least somewhat familiar with them.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Whoa, whoa, whoa; who do you think you are coming in here and FREELY choosing bands to start with and like? What are you, some kind of human being, complete with freewill and personal taste?!
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
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If you are new to prog, start with whatever the f**k you want. :)
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