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Joined: May 01 2007
Location: NYC/Rhinebeck
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Posted: May 10 2017 at 23:00
the new song is fine and I'll get the new album---but honestly his extreme depression is getting to me---we are living in crazy down times and I'm not seeking out depressing music to listen to on a daily basis
Joined: December 23 2009
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Posted: May 10 2017 at 09:19
I'm liking the song more and more, that drone noise towards the end is nice.......I'm also looking forward to a more happy upbeat mood on this album as SW stated.
Depressing songs like Routine and The Raven, albeit great songs, can be tough sometimes. I remember when The Raven came out and I was cranking that song pretty loud, my wife came down stairs to the audio room and said "WTF is that, sounds like haunted house music!!"
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Joined: September 13 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: May 10 2017 at 08:10
Haters already...this is like reading comments on Facebook for Dream Theater and Opeth--where the hatred spews forth because there is no more Portnoy, or the later isn't delivering the amazing metal thud they once did. There is amazing music coming that feeds my Prog obsession, and at an early point one learns what to purchase or totally ignore. Wilson isn't one to ignore. I like the new song...can't wait to hear the rest. I gotta go to work. Best of a day to everyone.
Joined: June 18 2009
Location: Mexico
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Posted: May 09 2017 at 21:35
I just gave it a listen and may need more to get a better opinion, but it sounds good enough. I'll have to hear it again and hope he's got some better stuff on the album.
My earlier posts don't seem to reflect my love for Steven's work which made me rather sad. I absolutely adore his early PT years, and I am actually one of those who finds him rather unique - at least for a couple of albums he sounded completely like himself (granted with a certain Floydian breeze) and made an album like Up the Downstair which is about the only album I've ever heard to mix prog rock with IDM...successfully to boot. The original 35 minute Sky Moves Sideways track is like that too - complete with wonderful beats instead of drums. Normally I hate that sh*t. I loooooooove the sound of real drums. Modern one-man prog ventures are literally infested with programmed drums and I have a special place reserved in hell for most of them. With Steven though it works. The beat becomes fluid and hypnotic. Umm hypnotic.
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
Joined: November 09 2014
Location: New York
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Posted: May 09 2017 at 15:02
"Pariah" is mainly built off of stuff that made up the rather boring HCE, but that shoegaze climax was wonderful and something Swilson has never tried before. Looks like there's some hope still left for his solo career.
Joined: March 19 2008
Location: Sweden
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Posted: May 09 2017 at 13:03
I hate to say this, but, this song sounds like one of the entries to the European Song Contest. Albeit one of the more ambitious ones. I'm disappointed.
Joined: October 12 2011
Location: Melb, Australia
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Posted: May 09 2017 at 11:04
I INSTANTLY thought of Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush's `Don't Give Up' when I heard the shared vocals on this one, and sure enough, when I got the email from Burning Shed mentioning it just before racing off to work tonight it mentioned a `Modernist Pop record' similar to Peter Gabriel's `So' etc.
Definitely the image cover drives home the `pop' element of the album. This is Wilson taking advantage of his current status, ready to offer something that will potentially bring in even more `muggles', and it will no doubt only raise his profile even higher.
But the `pop' description isn't initially offputting or surprising, there's been pop pieces on every single release he's put out since even `On the Sunday of Life'....well, maybe not `Metanoia' or `Voyage 34'
Joined: December 23 2009
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Posted: May 09 2017 at 10:52
This site for the most part will prolly hate on the album. As he states, think prog-pop music by PG, Kate Bush, Tears For Fears, that should be the mood you are in for this one.
The released Pariah is ok, might be a grower and Ninet does an admirable job, I never expect the "released" single to be yuuge!
As I said on another site, which already has 7 pages about this new release, you have to look at his albums as individual works, not a collection. They are not similar, and I think he does this on purpose, heck if you removed the vocals, a listener not familiar with SW/PT might think they are all different artists, his solo works.
The cover art is not to my liking..not a fan of seeing the artist on the cover, too easy.
Ordered the vinyl (duh!) as it is 45RPM, half speed mastered.....should be sweet! And at US$32.00 is a really good price for it.
Joined: March 12 2005
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Posted: May 09 2017 at 10:25
He should have at least shown his nipples on that cover...
Hopes are low for the new album, but I'll give a listen to this song when I can.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Yeah Insurgentes is far and away his best solo offering (not counting Up The Downstair). The desolate 80s post-punk vibes really had a hand in making that album sound unique within his discography. I remember reading an interview with him at around the time where he mentioned The Cure being one of the main influences. Coupled together with his usual psych tendencies it really made for an interesting and quite beautiful album.
Edited by Guldbamsen - May 09 2017 at 04:02
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Joined: June 25 2013
Location: Portugal
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Posted: May 09 2017 at 03:48
Guldbamsen wrote:
So you're looking forward to the new SWilson eh Samuel?
Man I hope he doesn't do an Edgar Froese ie turn himself into a charicature of himself just endlessly releasing the same album for years on end. I love Edgar but he ceased being interesting 30 years ago because of that. A vacation might do Steven some good.
I'm looking forward to skip it
Yeah, he should have released an album every five years or so and just pick the best tracks. There's some good stuff on his later work.
Kotro wrote:
Good stuff. Glad to hear more of Ninet. HCE was a grower, but I definitly now like it more than the previous two albums (Insurgentes remains very hard to top, though).
For me it only became worse with more spins I much prefer the previous two.
Joined: October 12 2011
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Posted: May 09 2017 at 03:11
It's a totally reliable new song that ticks plenty of the usual boxes without being massively exciting or actually terrible. Those most raving of fanboys will love it blindly, and those that can't stand the man will think it's exactly like all his other recent music.
But is that the same female singer from the `H.C.E' album and who sung the chorus on the remake of PTree's `Don't Hate Me'? Urgh...I seem to be in the minority that isn't crazy about her...
Joined: August 16 2004
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Posted: May 09 2017 at 03:11
Good stuff. Glad to hear more of Ninet. HCE was a grower, but I definitly now like it more than the previous two albums (Insurgentes remains very hard to top, though).
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