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iluvmarillion 
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 Posted: January 28 2017 at 23:35 |
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The Beatles were ground breaking in every way you can think ushering a new age of pop culture and sending most of the existing pop icons in the early 60's to early graves. If it wasn't for The Beatles, the Stones would still be doing covers in Blues bars. You're lucky if a band has one great song writer. The Beatles had three genius songwriters, plus they had George Martin working with them in the studio integrating other musical styles and instrumentation into the music. And even on a technical level they had artists playing in the studio with them, including Eric Clapton on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps". They just didn't advertise which artists played on their records. Which brings up their one major weakness as a band. They were at their peak as a live band around 1962 and went downhill after around 1964 when the music was too complicated to play live to an audience (just as their records were getting better and better). Their live performance on the top of the rooftop of Abbey studios during the "Let It Be" sessions are pretty ordinary to me.
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 21:31 |
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It's not even a contest. Who cares if Asia had much better musicians on a technical level than The Beatles, if the songs aren't nearly as memorable. If only Asia had existed in the 70's with the 70's mindset, it would have been a whole different beast.
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Progosopher
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 19:02 |
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The Beatles by a mile, even if they are not truly Prog. They did what they did better than anybody else, and they helped set the stage for Prog. Asia may have had the Prog superstars and did some fine music, but there is really no contest.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 17:08 |
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Boy how we so push for the Beatles to be prog, OP said it......They are not thank God. From a musical performance view Asia all day long, neither of the Fab Four can hold a candle to the musicianship of the members of Asia.Had other bands performed the Beatles songs I might have gave those songs some attention.. |
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 17:02 |
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My unpopular opinion is that they are both dreadful, sorry.
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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Catcher10
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 16:48 |
Boy how we so push for the Beatles to be prog, OP said it......They are not thank God. From a musical performance view Asia all day long, neither of the Fab Four can hold a candle to the musicianship of the members of Asia. Had other bands performed the Beatles songs I might have gave those songs some attention..
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TheH
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 15:28 |
I don't like the Beatles but at least they where highly influential on the music I love and many artists I like. No one would miss Asia if they never existed..
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Progresearcher
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 15:08 |
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Very strange theme, IMO. I think, even "People vs Animals" would be more topical than this one, really. The Beatles are the founders of rock music actually. Besides, such their albums as "Sergeant Pepper", "Abbey Road" and the 'white' one are in many ways progressive, the latter especially rich in genuinely progressive compositions. And who are Asia? They're money-makers first of all! A prog rock band? No! A pop prog one? Okay, but I need pop-prog (especially such as theirs) as much as a fish needs an umbrella. How could Steve Howe sling mud at "90125"? What a hypocrite! What's really a 'shameful creation', complete musical potboiler, is his (Asia's) "Alpha", released the very same year as the said Yes album! Well, enough said. Sorry, folks, for being so emotional.
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mlkpad14
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 14:15 |
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Looks like the Beatles are crushing... Can't say I have anything against Japan, but the Beatles have a slight edge to me. I voted for the latter.
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Wanorak
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 12:55 |
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Really??? The Beatles!
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 10:42 |
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SteveG
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 10:38 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
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And my brother's back at home With his Beatles and his Stones, We never got if off on that revolution stuff -- What a drag, too many snags. |
Yeah Greg! That's me to a T! 
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 10:26 |
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Me too. Thankfully the doctor said they will pass on their own. But man, they are excruciatingly painful.
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 10:25 |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 10:16 |
SteveG wrote:
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And my brother's back at home With his Beatles and his Stones, We never got if off on that revolution stuff -- What a drag, too many snags.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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SteveG
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 10:11 |
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Stones.
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progmatic
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 09:59 |
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The Beatles songs I love; I have never been a fan at all of Asia, whose commerciality is rivaled only by Boston, and represents everything I despised about music when it died (temporarily) in the late '70s. Arena rock = crap, IMHO.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 09:43 |
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So let me get this straight. Prog can't be song oriented?
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 09:24 |
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Let's see, the most important and influential rock band of all time, versus a band in which the members were more influential and important when they played in previous bands.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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Posted: January 28 2017 at 08:32 |
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