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Ricochet
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:56 | ||
I'm sorry, have the completing of prog rock ended and we have to complete now Prog-Related?
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:54 | ||
And there, my people, you have an example of the kind of "arguments" that some people use to reply points made by other people. No wonder some bands are added here, don't you think?
The prog-related sub-genre (or side-genre) EXISTS. IT WILL NOT BE DELETED BECAUSE A FEW MEMBERS THINK SO. It has been here long before you were a member or I was a member. And if we happen to have this "prog-related" genre, we might as well do a GOOD JOB of keeping it as complete as we can, instead of repeatedly saying that it shouldn't be here, as that take us nowhere.
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65306 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:50 | ||
OK
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Avantgardehead
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:46 | ||
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http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65306 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:38 | ||
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 36299 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:30 | ||
Teo: I think your bio is terrific. I would think that it would go a long way towards people's understanding of the reasoning behind its inclusion, and/or convince quite a few of its worthiness. Had that bio been prepared early on, and used for the suggestion process, I think it would have swayed quite a few naysayers (especially those who voted against it, or voiced opinions against the addition, while hardly knowing the material or having minimal metal knowledge).
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topofsm
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 17 2008 Location: Arizona, USA Status: Offline Points: 1698 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:20 | ||
The only thing that has confused me about the addition is the fact that Ride The Lightning is rated higher than MOP, which is rated higher than AJFA. I thought that people here generally enjoyed the albums in the opposite order, and that their progressiveness increased in the opposite order than that too.
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Avantgardehead
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:16 | ||
Bah, prog-related can be anything and that's been proven many times.
And that discussion was hilarious. Three collaborators chortling about Metallica and ignoring everyone else's views. But all facetiousness aside, let me explain myself. If I were running a site about a specific sub-genre of music, I'd stay far away from influences because that, to me, just lets the floor fall out. For example, if I started a site about birds, should I list dinosaurs as "bird-related" or "proto-bird"? Yes, they became birds (allegedly), but I doubt someone looking up a starling or a meadowlark is going to want to read about an tyrannosaurus. I don't think actually adding entries for all the little dinosaurs will do my site any good other than confusing and outraging the populous. So in short, I'd keep influences as just mentions in a bio as I think that does way more good in the long run. Edited by Avantgardehead - October 14 2008 at 16:26 |
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:10 | ||
I can't believe how un-chaotic this discussion has been.... It seems that we've all grown up after all...
As many people here now, there was a 36 PAGE thread about the subject, and not with just 3 members discussing the matter but a LOT of members giving their opinions. In the end, arguments shown that the band could fit in prog-related (even if, as I believe, they could've fit in prog-metal). M@x changed his opinion because he listened and read the discussions. Which it seems goes far beyond of what many people are able to do... Not that everybody has to agree, but it helps when, before giving an opinion, THE ARGUMENTS FROM BOTH SIDES ARE GIVEN A CHANCE.
Anyway, they're here. I thought my long bio would help give a light about why they are here. I hope it works at least once.
And by the way, Metallica are not in any prog-genre. They've been added to prog-RELATED.
Prog- RELATED
RELATED
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topofsm
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 17 2008 Location: Arizona, USA Status: Offline Points: 1698 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:42 | ||
Me? I'm glad Metallica's here. They definetely pushed the boundaries. The only reason anybody should be unhappy about them being here is their boring material, when Bob Rock dumbed them down.
Does anybody remember some Bob Rock quote where he said something along the lines of "I liked Metallica's riffs and stuff, but I think it would be better for them to focus on one riff for an entire song than go off in different directions". They were being very progressive and developing their sound, but then they got kind of boring. I think they were pretty darn progressive (in the progressive sense, not the prog sense).
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Norbert
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 20 2005 Location: Hungary Status: Offline Points: 2506 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:55 | ||
I actually have nothing against their music, really like them between 1984-88, but I feel that they are too famous, trendy and "cool" for a Progressive Rock site.
Death Magnetic has already 7 reviews, ratings, and the really painful St Anger has already 5. People bother with them more, than some "real" prog bands. |
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Angelo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:33 | ||
Don't give away our intentions, Micky - how would you feel if we spoiled your wedding surprise in that manner/? |
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ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
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Failcore
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 27 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4625 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:31 | ||
Hahahaha! This made my day. |
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Padraic
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:04 | ||
Whether a band is or is not here has precisely zero effect on my enjoyment of this site.
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micky
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:02 | ||
yeah... there is something to be said for keeping the site on it's toes and not having a boring stagnant site
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Avantgardehead
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 12:54 | ||
Booooooooooooring!! I'd rather make jokes like "Music Archives" or my favorite "My Favorite Bands Archive" or something to that extent. Since the majority was ignored and the band was added anyway, the only thing I can do is find ways to entertain myself be it writing reviews for all 450 of their horrible albums or drawing very hateful and dadaist pictures of what I perceive Metallica fans to look like. It's just the way I work! |
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Angelo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 12:08 | ||
Maybe, just maybe, it would help to read before you write. The answer to your question is a few posts above it.... |
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ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 11:25 | ||
I'm clearly Abnormal. BTW: I even purchased the new Pathosray album ... I really liked it. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 11:18 | ||
^^^ why is it not accurate - "one of the greatest" could also mean "one of the greatest 10000".
In order to stay on topic: I think that in any case he's a better singer than Hetfield , and has a better voice. Edited by MikeEnRegalia - October 14 2008 at 11:23 |
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Yorkie X
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 04 2007 Status: Offline Points: 1049 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 11:14 | ||
Edited by Yorkie X - October 14 2008 at 11:23 |
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