The Atheist - Agnostic - Non religious thread

Freud???

I must say, I DO think Freud is generally right. Generally.....like he's got all the ideas but their just warped.
Like his psychosexual stages, there is some truth to them in my opinion and he does have some right ideas, but the whole "wanting to have sex with your mother/secretly wanting to kill your father" thing and "penis envy" is a nuts.

Like I said, a lot of good ides but why he made everything into sexual desires?
I just think the was a sicko oh and all the coke he did

Arrrghus wrote: Also, don't write off Freud. He happened to be brilliant, and according to recent studies, mostly right about his research. Except for dreams. Dreams mean nothing. Just random neural firing across the frontal lobe because the occipital lobe is spazzing.

No, not really. He gets the idea of the unconscious and repression, but his crazy sexual stuff is completely wrong.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Thanks deathrabbit, and i found some interesting data.   Most of the Catholics arrested and convicted in USA are: Young Latino inmigrants Most of them living in extreme poverty Most of them members of violent gangs A great percentage of them illegal Most of them with poor defence in a trial. Almost 90%  of Latinos are Catholics (At least by name) But you forget the real truth: Poor inmigrants, members of a violent gang will probably commit violent crimes and most surely be convicted because they aren't able to pay a decent defence. Let me put another example:   All members of Maoist Shinning Path who killed 50,000 innocent Peruvianms are atheists All members of the Kmer Rouge who killed almost a million Cambodians were atheists Then Atheists have more chances to be criminal terrorists. Of course this is BS, I'm leaving many facts behind, like that radical communists embrace Atheism for political interests. Iván

I've only gotten halfway through this thread but I wanted to reply to this qoute-able quotation.

"Radical Communists embrace atheism for political interests"

Several assumptions:

1. There are radical communists and non-radical communists (seems strange to distinguish them)
2. Shining Path members and Khymer Rouge members are communists because they and Richard Pipes says so
3. That shining path members et al can't really disbelieve in God despite being duped peasants, making them agnostics, if not dynamically anti-theist.
4. That (the real) communists can't be dynamically anti-theist or only pretend to be so to mesh with the political ideology.


As Marx says criticism of religion precedes all criticism. Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, myself, were all atheists before we were Socialists.

Socialism is, philosophically speaking, Dialectical Materialism and Historical Materialism. An atheist approach to the study of history is historical materialism, and vice versa. Dialectics is the atheist approach to Science in as much as Empiricism is not dynamic enough to move beyond idealist conceptions. Atheism can either be taken down an extremist agnostic path or an anti-theist path.

A historical materialist wouldn't debate about the existence of God by citing speculative probabilities in the vein of agnostics. Rather, the origin of God in the social structure and human history would be exposed as false. To begin with, that is...

Unfortunately, its just as easy for a Stalinist to say he is a communist as it is for Cheney to say he is a Christian

There are many double standards, but genuine socialism is an athiest philosophical system first, before it is the movement for revolution.


Edited by RoyFairbank - June 15 2009 at 15:46

I went from Atheist to "oh my god, I'm 30, I'm not immortal, I'm going to die one day, I had better become a Christian in order to "live on forever" , back to the path(or non path as it is) of being an  atheist realizing one day I will cease to exist, but at least knowing I am right  and not fooling myself based on the majority of mankinds fear of death. Do I fear death? Absolutely, but I am no longer going to throw away reason, due to my fears.

Slartibartfast wrote: Why thanks, I often get comments like "you go to the worst web sites".  By the way, anyone wanting to visit the worst web sites that I go to can right click on the graphic and check properties to see the source.

Excellent! I would love to, besides it can't be that bad. I frequent some pretty terrible websites.



Edited by JJLehto - June 09 2009 at 17:55

Slartibartfast wrote: Evolver wrote: JJLehto wrote: Just exactly how many angels COULD fit on the head of a pin? The questionis: How many angels could make a pinhead throw a fit? I'd have to guess a few. Wait a second, are we talking about Zippy? And now for something completely different:

The rare triple cartoon from Slartibartfast!
That deserves uber laughies!
I do love your various cartoons.

JJLehto wrote: Just exactly how many angels COULD fit on the head of a pin?

The questionis: How many angel could make a pinhead throw a fit?

Just exactly how many angels COULD fit on the head of a pin?

StyLaZyn wrote: I didn't know this thread existed!

Snow Dog wrote: Proof!!!

Pssh, I only believe in stuff I can taste.