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Poll Question: how do you fel about Metallica being added ?
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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2008 at 14:28
Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

I'm indifferent.. I don't really see the point of having them here, but they're doing no harm. I guess it's good for consistency's sake, since they added Iron Maiden and others awhile back.

For anyone fuming over their addition, remember they're in prog-RELATED. No one's claiming they're a prog band.
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2008 at 11:07

Again.... oh no did someone haven't read the last thread about Metallica????

For bad or good Metallica is in PA, and i think this thread is out of place!
 
BTW i added Live Sh´t and Purge.
 
Case Closed and please move on!!
 

Tired of reading the same thing.
 
We, The opossers of Metallica inclusion have our opportunity and we FAIL so, please SHUT UP, and live the consecuences.
 
 
 


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Points: 1170 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2008 at 03:02
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

 
And there, my people, you have an example of the kind of "arguments" that some people use to reply points made by other people. No wonder some bands are added here, don't you think?


And there, my people, you have an example of not reading replies in context. I was facetiously responding to post above mine because I honestly couldn't think of anything to say. Lighten the hell up.






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I agree. In a nutshell, Iron Maiden's music is more palatable, accessible and tasteful which doesn't necessarily mean they are more progressive. I have no objections to either band being added though. It is easy to see how much influence Iron Maiden would have had on a band like Symphony X.
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^Not at all - Metallica had more chops than Maiden, especially rhythmically - that "dum-digga-dum-digga" rhythm is distinctive to the point of being over-used in Maiden, but Metallica's music is so much more varied - and many of their compositional techniques are more advanced to the point of being actual Prog, while Maiden simply extended structures.
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Points: 1049 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2008 at 23:07
Strange thing is when Iron Maiden were added I never gave it a second though that band has so much musicality and refined chops they deserve to be added.  but Metallica ?  that's stretching the friendship a little.
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^ I should have been more precise. LOL
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Points: 9869 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2008 at 09:20
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:



Black Sabbath ... I don't consider their early albums as being related to prog metal, I'd rather say that they were a Heavy Metal band who - for example on Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - were influenced by Prog Rock.Smile



I agree they are less proximate an influence on prog metal but you had referred to Iron Maiden being the only metal band other than Metallica in the prog-related section and that's what I protested.Tongue  Iommi's more metal than you. Wink
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:


No, but so far the has only been one metal band in prog-related (Iron Maiden). It does make sense to add the most important prog-related metal bands, and Metallica certainly qualify. They are for prog metal what the Beatles are for prog rock.Smile


Hey, Black Sabbath are already in too, that makes it more than two.  Shocked  Easy, easy this ain't no metal forum. Wink


Black Sabbath ... I don't consider their early albums as being related to prog metal, I'd rather say that they were a Heavy Metal band who - for example on Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - were influenced by Prog Rock.Smile
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:


No, but so far the has only been one metal band in prog-related (Iron Maiden). It does make sense to add the most important prog-related metal bands, and Metallica certainly qualify. They are for prog metal what the Beatles are for prog rock.Smile


Hey, Black Sabbath are already in too, that makes it more than two.  Shocked  Easy, easy this ain't no metal forum. Wink
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2008 at 04:33
...and also that they wrote Progressive Metal that adheres to one of the foundation criteria of Prog - music that turns itself inside out, upside down and inside out - not to mention the long, complex structures and use of modes and unusual time signatures, and everything else...
 
It's about the music, not the image.
 
 
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Originally posted by Telinstryata Telinstryata wrote:

For me Prog-Related seems a little too broad a term, but if they start getting into sub-genres of Prog-Related then this site would just be chaos.


Have you been listening at the door of the collaborators meetings? This is exactly why P-R has never been subdivided. Smile


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Points: 7028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2008 at 04:08
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I'm sorry, have the completing of prog rock ended and we have to complete now Prog-Related? Geek


No, but so far the has only been one metal band in prog-related (Iron Maiden). It does make sense to add the most important prog-related metal bands, and Metallica certainly qualify. They are for prog metal what the Beatles are for prog rock.Smile
 
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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I'm sorry, have the completing of prog rock ended and we have to complete now Prog-Related? Geek


No, but so far the has only been one metal band in prog-related (Iron Maiden). It does make sense to add the most important prog-related metal bands, and Metallica certainly qualify. They are for prog metal what the Beatles are for prog rock.Smile
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it's not just that they had influence on the rise of Progmetal, it's also that they progressed metal in their time much like Iron Maiden did
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I say So-so. I've been a huge fan of Metallica since I was 13, and I'm now 32. Ever since the "Black Album" I cringed every time they came out with a new release. I kept listening. Hoping against hope, that their next album would again be a METAL album and would include the long songs and quick tempo/riff changes that I loved. Gladly "Death Magnetic" has arrived and I love the new album. I can understand their influence on Prog-metal, but that's it. I don't think that any bands outside of the metal genres would say that "Master of Puppets" or "...and Justice For All" were any large influence on their music. If there was a Prog-metal Related category, I would put them there (along with Iron Maiden), rather than the generic Prog-Related. For me Prog-Related seems a little too broad a term, but if they start getting into sub-genres of Prog-Related then this site would just be chaos.
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Points: 3449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 20:41

Seems ok to me -- don't really care one way or another, but I was a bit confused when I hit the site yesterday and was greeted with a St. Anger review!    I never considered them prog, but prog-related I guess I can understand.

 
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do i think metallica belongs here? probably not
would I argue against their inclusion? not really
will it hurt the site? wouldn't worry about it
 
therefore I trust the judgement of the members, collabs, and site owners.
 
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Points: 1127 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 17:04
I was a Metallica fan around Masters Of Puppets and ...And Justice.
These days i couldn't care less about them.
So why am I responding here?
Because I don't wanna read about the top 10 prog bands only.I wanna read about all the the bands that are somewhat related ,give and take.I have found some great stuff here that are somewhat related.
Now,If you don't care about a certain band and a certain subject,the don't fackin bowwer.
Just part take in the the things where you actually have something to contribute,or have an interest.
Enjoy,and yes,I won't be buying the latest Metallica album.
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