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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kotro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 17:02
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I really wish we just had a legit straight "rock" sub section where we could add everybody and write reviews for real.  The site's name and emphasis could remain prog, with a users options to present either "prog-only" or "prog and rock' albums on their main lead page.  Thus, people who want it to remain just as it currently is could have it that way, and those who want to "see" all the album reviews could select the "prog and rock" option to tailor their homepage. 

That would be so cool.  And it would get many of the bands here who fall just short of our prog criteria.  We could then rival RYM in titles and scope. 

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I made a similar suggestion when I first arrived at the PA forum. Didn't get much support then, and the little feedback I did get veered towards the "too complicated to implement" argument. I think this model proposed by Gazz will suit us better for the time being - I repeat that it should be made a sticky and perhaps even get a link in the homepage, but that might be asking too much.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 16:22
I really wish we just had a legit straight "rock" sub section where we could add everybody and write reviews for real.  The site's name and emphasis could remain prog, with a users options to present either "prog-only" or "prog and rock' albums on their main lead page.  Thus, people who want it to remain just as it currently is could have it that way, and those who want to "see" all the album reviews could select the "prog and rock" option to tailor their homepage. 

That would be so cool.  And it would get many of the bands here who fall just short of our prog criteria.  We could then rival RYM in titles and scope. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SaltyJon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 16:07
Nice idea for a thread indeed, I don't have too many non-prog albums but if I get the inclination to review any of them I'll surely come here to do it. 
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I'm very tempted to write a review for the album in my sig, Frightened Rabbit - The Midnight Organ Fight. I think I will later today
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A fantastic idea, and one which I feel would add even more to the richness and diversity of the site.

How the hell I'd have time to review anything is, of course, another thing, given that I don't have time to do many prog reviews these days, but I will definitely get around to reviewing those excellent Tansads & Levellers albums of mineClap
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kotro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 07:57
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I'd been thinking about starting a thread like this.  I've got such a backlog of prog albums I'd like to review.  I'll be back. Big smile
 
That's two of us, it's long overdue. A big huzzah to Gazz for taking the step forward from idea to execution. May I suggest that an index of albums reviews be created in the first post? Preferably with a direct link to the review, as I sense this topic will quickly grow beyond one page. 
 
In the meantime I move for this thread to be sticked.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2010 at 06:58
I believe this is a wonderful idea, well-thought out and expressed in an extremely mature way. Kudos to Stephen for starting this thread - which I hope will prosper for the good of the siteClap.

Now, if I wasn't surrounded by prog albums to review for that 'other' site, I'd very gladly contribute to this thread... Unfortunately, as of late it takes me an inordinately long time to produce a decent review, which of course is a pity. 
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I'd been thinking about starting a thread like this.  I've got such a backlog of prog albums I'd like to review.  I'll be back. Big smile
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Brilliant idea!

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Great idea. Now I can review Katatonia.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Great idea for a thread indeed, and very well executed.  I don't have a review at this time, but really liked your review of my favourite Midnight Oil album (and I like Midnight Oil considerably).

Thanks :) It's my favorite album by them too, but I've only heard their stuff from Place Without a Postcard to Earth and Sun and Moon - missing both their early and late stuff still.
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Great idea for a thread indeed, and very well executed.  I don't have a review at this time, but really liked your review of my favourite Midnight Oil album (and I like Midnight Oil considerably).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2010 at 21:40
it's a cool idea for a thread (kind of a site within a site Shocked), maybe I'll post a review in the future

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Let me start this off with one of my all time favorite non-prog albums :)

Band: Midnight Oil (Australia, 1976-2002)

Midnight Oil was an Australian alternative rock act. They are best known in the western world for their hit single, Beds are Burning, off the album Diesel and Dust (their 6th album), although I hear that they are well loved in their native Australia. For years before they were known as Midnight Oil, they toured as The Farm, and after Peter Garret joined the band, they incorporated some progressive rock elements into their sound. The band is known for its political activism, including holding a concert protesting the Exxon Valdez oil spill in front of the Exxon offices in New York. Frontman Peter Garrett was actively involved in politics during the career, and the reason for the bands split in 2002 was so that he could continue his political career.

Album: 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 (1982)

Rating: Overall, an excellent album that I would rate as a masterpiece (5 stars).

Prog Appeal: For fans of progressive music, I would give this album huge praise. If the entire bands output was like this, I would be trying to get them into the archives as crossover or some such - but as it is, I can only give this 3 stars (Strong appeal to progressive music listeners).

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Midnight Oil is known for their hard rocking tracks, and even by this point that was considered a crucial part of their sound. However, they decided to begin this album with a bit more sedate sound. The opening track, Outside World, is mostly instrumental, with some sparse vocals. This was initially my favorite track off the album, for it was like nothing I had heard at the time, and it kept me coming back until the album grew on me more than I had expected it would.

But those who doubted that this album would rock would give their fears to rest with the next track, "Only the Strong", which I can only describe as a blistering, almsot angry rocker. This is followed by Short Memory, which is a bit less direct in its instrumental approach, yet none the less impassioned. The lyrics are extremely powerful, as it lists terrible things that man has done in succession, followed by the chorus of "Short Memory, must have a short memory".

Read About It is another impassioned song, and I remember seeing the video for this one and being stunned by the power of the video (which describes deforestation in australia and the rate at which species go extinct). The song still has strong bite on its own.

Scream In Blue is where the band shows off their progressive influences the most, I think. Once again, we are treated to some tumultuous, hard rocking instrumentals, which come to a sudden stop halfway through the song, where Peter Garret comes in with what I believe is one of his most potent vocal experiences (from the percentage of the Oils discography I've heard, anyways). When he utters the last line, "When I scream, I scream in blue, I scream in blue", I get shivers. 

The second half of the album begins with US Forces, which sounds like a pretty upbeat song but is once again full of politically charged lyrics (this time, the Oils are criticising America's foreign policy). This is followed by Power And The Passion, another excellent Oils single that rocks much harder than US forces. The middle section gives the band some chance to show off, including some excellent drumming from Rob Hirst.

Maralinga follows Power And the Passion, and it is probably the most sedate track on the album, barring Outside World, but without the cool atmosphere of the aforementioned track. Regardless, it is still an excellent track, but I would argue that it is the weakest on the album.

Nonetheless, it is followed by the extremely catchy "Tin Legs and Tin Mins", before the album finishes on a blistering note with "Somebody's Trying To Tell Me Something". (At the end of the album, there is a long sustained note. On the vinyl, this was held into the runout groove (I know that term because I looked it up on wikipedia :) ), and on the CD this is emulated by the vote being sustained for 40 seconds. 



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This website is a community of music lovers. We are all drawn here by our love for prog, but I don't believe that is the only reason we stay. Their are tons of websites out there that deal with the genre to various levels that we could visit. 

I believe that the reason that Prog-Archives has been successful so far has been the tools it provides us with to discuss our  music in depth, mostly the forums and the review system.

One of the recurring themes on PA has been the fact that most of us love music beyond the realm of prog. But on this site, such music does not have the same support.

Intention

What I am intending to accomplish through the creation of this topic is to give us a place to really discuss music that we like outside of the prog realm. This is a place to come and review music that isn't prog.

The value will be, in addition to the increased avenue of discussion, the ability to be exposed to new music. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but of late, I've made many a purchase because an album sounded promising based on a review that hit the PA front page. In fact, this (+ the streaming music) has become the dominant way I purchase music these days. As can be expected, that means that I am listening almost exclusively to prog - which is not necessarily a bad thing ;)

Nonetheless, some well written reviews about music by those who appreciate many of the same things in music I do could help me broaden my musical horizons.

Format

In order to keep these reviews close to as informative as the reviews on PA, I recommend including the following information:

Band Name and description: Enough information that those not familiar with the band will have a vague idea what is being reviewed. 

Band Information: Genre, Country of origin, anything else deemed useful

Album information: Name, year of release, album image

The Review (obvious - should follow progarchive guidelines)

Rating - should follow prog archives ratings, but replace the word "prog" with the respective genre the music is from.

Prog Appeal - your opinion of how strongly this album would appeal to fans of progressive music. I have created some guidelines for the meaning:

1) No appeal to progressive music listeners
2) Light or historical appeal to progressive music listeners
3) Strong appeal to progressive music listeners
4) I believe this album is so progressive that it should be included on the archives.

Happy progging, and I look forward to seeing many reviews!


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