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Just got Colours myself - have had a range of their earlier albums for a while, and I was pleased to see a sharper focus on the songwriting on Colours - which is not to say I dislike their more expansive works at all. But Colours was better than I was expecting.

Great thread too, Scott!
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If you are interested in their best albums, such are (by date):

Inside;
Dawn;
Ocean;
Silen Cries;
Colours;
Planets;
Time to Turn;
Tides Return Forever;
Ocean 2.

The ones in bolt are my favorites., even though I like most of their discography. As mentioned earlier, Frank Bonnermann and the guys are probably the most consistent progressive rock band out there.
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Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

Sorry, didn't read through the whole thread.  You are absolutely correct.  My Bad!!!  Embarrassed


Not a problem, of course. I also asked if Eloy were still any good live, but that seems to be lost in the mists of past pages!!
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Sorry, didn't read through the whole thread.  You are absolutely correct.  My Bad!!!  Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:


Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

<span style="color: rgb51, 51, 51; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; line-height: normal; text-align: left; ">Eloy actually took their name from the weird "Eloi" race, which were a race featured in the future vision of H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine" from 1895.</span>
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The image from the 1960s film above is actually of Morlocks, not Eloi.
Here is a picture of the Eloi from the film:

They are all young, blonde and beautiful but are nothing more than a listless and passive food source for the Morlocks.  The shock revelation in the novel and the movie is that both Eloi and Morlocks are descended from humans.


Yep. I pointed this out earlier, but I was ignored.
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:


Eloy actually took their name from the weird "Eloi" race, which were a race featured in the future vision of H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine" from 1895.


In the 1960s film they looked like this.





The image from the 1960s film above is actually of Morlocks, not Eloi.

Here is a picture of the Eloi from the film:



They are all young, blonde and beautiful but are nothing more than a listless and passive food source for the Morlocks.  The shock revelation in the novel and the movie is that both Eloi and Morlocks are descended from humans.
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Interesting thread.  I've not really discovered Eloy yet.  I have a couple of compilations from them on CD, and I have downloaded Visionary and The Tides Return Forever from eMusic.  I have also listened to the songs that are streaming on PA.  I will probably explore them further one of these days too.
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While we are onto Youtube there are a number of great tracks of Eloy online

Not as good as having the Cd of course - but worth a listen if you have the time

Here's some of my favourites. If you do not like these, give up...
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^^^ Yes! Eloy Live is a sensational album and I have that one and love it.

The whole album is actually online!

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I always think the CD 'Eloy Live' is a good place to start. Most of Ocean is there and the band are on electric form. A good chunky 70 minutes of Eloy to enjoy.
Thanks for the tipThumbs Up I will definitely check that one out, eventually.

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

I've only heard a handful of songs from this band, but a couple of those, The Apocalypse from 'Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes' and End of an Odyssey from 'Time to Turn', I really liked, so I'm planning to explore Eloy's discography myself in the very near future. So, yeah, I'm definitely going to follow this threadThumbs Up



 

Two of their best tracks

 

I always think the CD 'Eloy Live' is a good place to start. Most of Ocean is there and the band are on electric form. A good chunky 70 minutes of Eloy to enjoy.


Are they still good live?
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Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

I've only heard a handful of songs from this band, but a couple of those, The Apocalypse from 'Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes' and End of an Odyssey from 'Time to Turn', I really liked, so I'm planning to explore Eloy's discography myself in the very near future. So, yeah, I'm definitely going to follow this threadThumbs Up
 
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I always think the CD 'Eloy Live' is a good place to start. Most of Ocean is there and the band are on electric form. A good chunky 70 minutes of Eloy to enjoy.
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I've only heard a handful of songs from this band, but a couple of those, The Apocalypse from 'Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes' and End of an Odyssey from 'Time to Turn', I really liked, so I'm planning to explore Eloy's discography myself in the very near future. So, yeah, I'm definitely going to follow this threadThumbs Up
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Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:










These three images were actually of the Morlocks, not the Eloi.

From the 60's film:


From the 2002 film:


Originally posted by Wikipedia.org Wikipedia.org wrote:


By the year 802,701 AD, humanity has evolved into two separate species: the Eloi and the Morlocks. The Eloi are the child-like, frail group, living a banal life of ease on the surface of the earth, while the Morlocks live underground, tending machinery and providing food, clothing and infrastructure for the Eloi. Each class evolved and degenerated from humans. The novel suggests that the separation of species may have been the result of a widening split between different social classes, a theme that reflects Wells' sociopolitical opinions.

The main difference from their earlier ruler-worker state is that, while the Morlocks continue to support the world's infrastructure and serve the Eloi, the Eloi have undergone significant physical and mental deterioration. Having solved all problems that required strength, intelligence, or virtue, they have slowly become dissolute and naive. They are described as being smaller than modern humans, having shoulder-length curly hair, chins that ran to a point, large eyes, small ears, and small mouths with bright red thin lips. They are of sub-human intelligence, though apparently intelligent enough to speak, and they have a primitive language. They do not perform much work, in the book and 1960 film when Weena falls into the river none of the Eloi help her.

While one initially has the impression that the Eloi people live a life of play and toil-less abundance, it is revealed that the Morlocks are attending to the Eloi's needs for the same reason a farmer tends cattle; the Morlocks use the Eloi for food. This is why there are no old people, and why the Eloi seem to fear the dark.

A portion of the book written for the New Review version, later published as a separate short story, reveals that a visit by the Time Traveler to the even further future results in his encountering rabbit-like hopping herbivores, apparently the descendants of the Eloi. They are described as being plantigrade (with longer hind legs) and tailless, being covered with straight greyish hair that "thickened about the head into a Skye terrier's mane", having human-like hands (described as fore feet) and having a roundish head with a projecting forehead and forward-looking eyes that were obscured by lank hair.

In the 1960 film version of the book, the Eloi are depicted as identical to modern humans, but all small and physically attractive, blond and blue-eyed. They are a placid and docile race, called "human vegetables" by the Time Traveller. They lack curiosity and appear devoid of human emotion. They have historical records, but have allowed them to become dust. The Morlocks use a siren to get them into their caves, like in past eras sirens were used to tell people to get into shelters. The Time Traveller motivates them to fight and defeat the Morlocks, which they do by setting them on fire as the Morlocks seem unused to resistance. One of the Eloi is motivated to beat a Morlock to death when it attacks the Time Traveller; the same Eloi bravely shoves an attacking Morlock aside, showing they are not completely docile. In the 2002 movie adaptation of The Time Machine, the Eloi are depicted as identical to modern humans with a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, and appear to be an ethnic amalgamation of brown skin indigenous races. The former movie version depicts the Eloi speaking modern-day English, a fact which contradicts the original novel and the logical timeline of language evolution. In the latter film version, the Eloi maintain the English language as merely an intellectual exercise, calling it "the stone language," as they know of it only from surviving stone inscriptions from our time.


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I have always had a thing for Eloy. I like most of their output, at least what I've heard so far, but yeah those vocals sometimes make me laugh in the wrong places. It's the inevitable German curse, and personally I'd much rather that they sing in their native tongue. It's very few German artists who have pulled this endeavour successfully off IMO.

I do love Inside and Floating though, and their symphonic psych records coming after them all through the 70s are all of high quality.  
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Inside and Floating are their best albums.
 
But i can't stand their vocals on most days. I can find similar stuff with less annoying vocals.
 
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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Glad to see you've fallen for Eloy, Atomic!

Their album `The Power and the Passion' was one of the very first proper prog albums I ever heard, and I'd never heard anything like it!! Their third album `Floating' is in my top 10 favourite prog albums of all time.

Their most recent one `Visionary' was a huge letdown to me. I did get the nice vinyl version, but the music was very average. Still, one of the only times I've been disappointed by them.

By the way, am I the only one who sometimes thinks lead vocalist Frank Bornermann sounds like Dr Nick Riviera from `The Simpsons'?!


Yes I believe they are worthwhile as the band have a style that I can get used to. I am amazed at how many of their albums are available for purchase online. I bought 6 albums tonight easily on ebay. Would love to get hold of the DVD too. Maybe later. Cheers

 
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I've tried to like them. Not for me.
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Glad to see you've fallen for Eloy, Atomic!

Their album `The Power and the Passion' was one of the very first proper prog albums I ever heard, and I'd never heard anything like it!! Their third album `Floating' is in my top 10 favourite prog albums of all time.

Their most recent one `Visionary' was a huge letdown to me. I did get the nice vinyl version, but the music was very average. Still, one of the only times I've been disappointed by them.

By the way, am I the only one who sometimes thinks lead vocalist Frank Bornermann sounds like Dr Nick Riviera from `The Simpsons'?!
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^^^ I will bear that in mind! I heard some of Silent  Cries today and totally blown away. The voice is very unique and I think it makes them Eloy and not just another Kraut or psych band. They really capture an atmosphere on each song that cannot be matched. I discovered the 4 in 1 box set with 4 albums included on ebay so bought that for $28 including shipping to Aus from Switzerland which is an excellent deal!


Castle in the air is brilliant and the first time I took notice of them was with that strong spacey guitar sound 

Another good buy here - 2 for price of one


 
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