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Negoba
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 11:23 |
Openings are openings and as long as you follow the rules of development, safety, and control of the center, you will be fine up until a very strong level.
I'd be curious what you've written about chess.
Poker is just probability and psychology. The second part is more interesting to me. But you can make a lot of money in the right crowd.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 11:12 |
Rather than argue let's just say I do similar things when playing RTS games, and I find it refreshing to do something different even when it decreases my probability of winning.
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 11:10 |
^^We could argue that point and you are probably correct, although I do try and mix things up (if I see I am playing a game too similarly to a previous game, I'll make a move I would otherwise not have made to see what happens, for example). I just enjoy the unknown a lot more.
I was bad at Magic: The Gathering for the same reason. I never liked using anyone else's decklists; I would always come up with my own decks that did weird esoteric things when they actually worked 1% of the time, because I enjoyed that more (even though I lost more) more than winning with a finely tuned "pro" deck.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 11:02 |
You're still following a script. It's just a script you've written for yourself rather than one you read somewhere. It's really no different.
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 10:58 |
I have the chess.com facebook app which I am pretty sure interacts directly with chess.com ... feel free to challenge StephenGazzard. I'll probably be sending out a couple challenges soon, haven't played in almost a year.
Never did get into all that opening move/theory stuff...I know it's what you need to do to win but the more you know, the more the game feels like you are following a script, I like the turn by turn analysis of everything on the board, it's what makes the game fun to me. So I am definitely not a pro, but sometimes, I pull of nifty things.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 10:36 |
Negoba wrote:
You can make money at chess too. I won $60 at all day tournament once. 
One of the more high profile women in chess (Jennifer Shahade) is also an avid poker player. Her stuff is pretty entertaining. She plays simultaneous exhibitions against naked men, etc. |
Pretty cool. What I meant to say is that you greatly increase your profit potential by playing poker rather than chess. Also, it allows you to ability to play with a group of your friends. I love both games though. I'm just more interested in things like knights tours and game theoretic modeling of betting patterns than actually playing either game anymore.
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Negoba
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 10:15 |
JJLehto wrote:
I'm new to this myself, but I see your profile and can challenge. Also adding to my friend list |
I'm at work now and my phone app won't let me do what I want. So I'll look for you again this evening.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Negoba
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 10:13 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Negoba wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
I used to play. When I was in high school, I worked and went to school in Center City where there's also an active population of people sitting at parks with chess boards waiting to play strangers.
I switched to playing poker instead. Actually, since then I've switched to reading and writing about the theory of poker rather than actually playing it.
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I got obsessed with poker for about 6 weeks. I read several books and played online. (I actually learned to like Omaha rather than Texas Hold 'em). I soon realized I didn't have the patience. You have to fold so much to win.
Wierd that poker requires more patience than chess. |
Well there's also the added bonus that you can make money playing poker. That can help the patience.
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You can make money at chess too. I won $60 at all day tournament once. 
One of the more high profile women in chess (Jennifer Shahade) is also an avid poker player. Her stuff is pretty entertaining. She plays simultaneous exhibitions against naked men, etc.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 07:49 |
Negoba wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
I used to play. When I was in high school, I worked and went to school in Center City where there's also an active population of people sitting at parks with chess boards waiting to play strangers.
I switched to playing poker instead. Actually, since then I've switched to reading and writing about the theory of poker rather than actually playing it.
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I got obsessed with poker for about 6 weeks. I read several books and played online. (I actually learned to like Omaha rather than Texas Hold 'em). I soon realized I didn't have the patience. You have to fold so much to win.
Wierd that poker requires more patience than chess. |
Well there's also the added bonus that you can make money playing poker. That can help the patience.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 07:31 |
Cant play for nuts
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 07:14 |
I'm new to this myself, but I see your profile and can challenge. Also adding to my friend list
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Negoba
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 07:09 |
Can't find JJLehto on chess.com...maybe I'm doing something wrong. I'm negoba.
I like the turn-based so I can play a few moves and come back. I'm negoba there.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Ricochet
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 07:06 |
Eh? Well I put you in my notify/friends list, so I guess it tells me when you go online or off, at least.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 07:05 |
Yes, I see my arrival has been "noted" by you. Whatever that means!
I've heard of that program, might as well give it a try
Edited by JJLehto - March 01 2012 at 07:05
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Ricochet
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 07:03 |
JJ, I have avenged you (twice).  But prepare yourself (soon).  I use BabaChess too.
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 07:01 |
I can really whallop the hell out of these easy computers...this last was a beat down. Guess higher levels or humans are needed
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Negoba
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 07:00 |
There is a free program called Babaschess that makes FICS much easier to navigate. It also has analysis tools, etc. I highly recommend it.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 06:53 |
Not a problem - as long as you can think ahead 3 or 4 (preferably 5 or 6) moves, factoring in variable strategies, you'll be fine.
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 06:40 |
Well done Vom. I thought it was going well for a bit but I see I fell into your trap. Once you start moving the king around all is lost
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Vompatti
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Posted: March 01 2012 at 06:40 |
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