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horsewithteeth11
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598 |
Posted: February 10 2012 at 13:01 |
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/02/the-weakening-of-nations-how-tax-work-arounds-undermine-our-society/252779/
My brother posted this on Facebook. I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but I'm eager to critique it later Edited by horsewithteeth11 - February 10 2012 at 13:02 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: February 10 2012 at 11:27 |
You're such a lovely person, MoM.
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manofmystery
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: February 10 2012 at 09:57 |
If he's from NYC then he's the pot calling the kettle black on the sh*t holes statement. Other than that, your buddy sounds like a real stereotyping douchebag.
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Time always wins. |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: February 10 2012 at 09:30 |
haha naw I really did enjoy Pittsburgh, but aside from some of those bars (no churches) I won't be there much.
We're visiting a PSU friend, since he came out to us last time (in Lancaster) we're making the trip out to him, which is Monaca, PA. He pretty much hates it there, and though he has a decent job is looking for one not just for better pay but mainly just to move pretty much anywhere Not as bad in a more office setting but says generally everyone in all of Western (less urban) is racist white trash and the towns are all sh*t holes. Edited by JJLehto - February 10 2012 at 09:31 |
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manofmystery
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: February 10 2012 at 08:41 |
Most Pittsburgh neighborhoods are a simple combination of bars and churches. Anyway, when are you headed out this way and to what purpose? If you're a vinyl guy I recommend stopping in Squirrel Hill at Jerry's:
Huge place and he only asks 3-4 bucks for most of his records. Almost never see anything over 10.
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: February 10 2012 at 02:45 |
Also, since Pat missed me I'll just have to visit our other libertarian friend!
Yes, MoM...I'll be out in your neck of the woods, that god forsaken place known as Western PA I actually like Pittsburgh but sadly I'll be in...well it don't matter, all the same white trash sh*t out there. I look forward to Primantis though, as well as some shady bars I was promised! I believe both of which are in the city, so when I'm there I'll just sniff around for the smell of freedom to find you. Edited by JJLehto - February 10 2012 at 02:47 |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: February 10 2012 at 00:18 |
Almost every day for months, (and still for a bit for several more months) I visited 4chan and /b/.
Not to mention had bum friends that knew how to get into our apt and would just use our comps, often going on 4chan. If I have not been arrested by now, we all are safe. Edited by JJLehto - February 10 2012 at 00:19 |
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: February 09 2012 at 22:31 |
^Who would have thought even I would be a subject of interest under those parameters...
Well, actually, I would've gone down much longer ago for what I have always said about the police... |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: February 09 2012 at 20:49 |
^Ut oh. That could be troublesome for me :(
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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manofmystery
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
Posted: February 09 2012 at 20:11 |
Careful with that type of language:
What are you trying to do, get us all hauled off to gitmo?
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Time always wins. |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: February 09 2012 at 15:50 |
Just makin sure yall still hate the government.
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Negoba
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: February 09 2012 at 15:27 |
What he said... The more complex the system, the more removed its functioning is from the individual.
Since presumably the purpose of any business or social system is to serve the individual humans that comprise it rather than the organization itself, bigger inherently has disadvantages. OTOH, of course, the more individuals involved, the greater collective achievement can be made from pooled resources.
The less you need from the system, the more freedom from its vagaries you will have.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: February 09 2012 at 15:03 |
Smaller businesses tend to be more responsive and attached to their communities. They're more likely to charge fair prices, have reasonable exchange policies, not pollute, etc. etc. They also presumably avoid some of the waste associated with the bureaucracy of huge companies. Psychologically I think they just come off as more personal and more relocatable as being run by people rather than being run by evil personified in a rich greedy CEO. From a libertarian standpoint, big businesses also tend to take advantaged of systems of socialized cost and privatized profits (transportation costs for example) or receive overt government aid in the form of bailouts or contracts.
Regulations could have stopped the particular crash that occurred, but a depression would have followed at some point. Government regulation of course contributed to many of the issues. If you look at bank failures, particularly comparing them here to the case of Canada, unit banking laws for example greatly exacerbated this problem. |
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: February 09 2012 at 14:54 |
Two questions:
What's this fascination with small businesses over big ones? Yes, most big ones I guess started small, but from a worker's perspective, which one will be more likely to be able to afford benefits, time off, and all of that? I don't know that much people but the little evidence I can see points to big companies being better in general to work for than small, family-owned ones. Two, could government regulation have stopped the stock crash of 1929? |
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: February 07 2012 at 16:32 |
I don't blame them yet. I blame the teachers who came before you who reinforce this idea and the top-down one way street style of education.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32525 |
Posted: February 07 2012 at 16:25 |
Quite a few of them will say this, but can you blame them? They were kindergarteners when the World Trade Center fell. All they know is what the media and their parents tell them. Too bad most of them won't grow out of that
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: February 07 2012 at 16:07 |
When grading the essay, you should thank the student and his stupidity for keeping you sane allowing you to take away some of his points...
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: February 07 2012 at 15:58 |
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32525 |
Posted: February 07 2012 at 15:31 |
In his essay, one of my students thanks the federal government for keeping us safe by taking away some of our freedoms.
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King of Loss
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16474 |
Posted: February 06 2012 at 22:31 |
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