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The Prognaut 
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 Posted: October 26 2008 at 22:32 |
I'm a headbanger alright, but I'm aware the Frisco band ain't got nothing to do in the depths of the Archives, that's for sure.
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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aapatsos
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Posted: October 25 2008 at 13:01 |
^ I'd recommend Solitude • Dominance • Tragedy (1999)and The Dark Discovery (1998)instead... (hope you don't mind) 
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 25 2008 at 09:48 |
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^ not the best album for "first contact". I'd recommend Recreation Day!
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Windhawk
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Posted: October 25 2008 at 03:52 |
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Oh my - Monday Morning Apocalypse was my first meeting with Evergrey, and one of the first CDs I reviewed when I started writing for prog4you a couple of years ago.
Somehow I was never tempted to check out any of their other stuff after going through that particular artistic doomsday...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 25 2008 at 03:04 |
 Jonny Two Shoes wrote:
The exclusion of bands such as Stratovarius and the flaming of an awesome Evergrey album...I really think some of you need to get your heads straight.
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I really like Evergrey, but you have to admit that their music has been getting less progressive with each release ... Torn and Monday Morning Apocalypse are only a shadow of their former music, as far as the progressiveness is concerned. Mind you: That doesn't necessarily mean that the new albums are bad ... there is not fixed relationship between progressiveness and quality, at least not for me.
Why not some more praise for the likes of David Bowie? and yet you get some guys who try to get the likes of Metallica in here without inclusion of more deserving bands.
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Bowie was added months before Metallica ... what's your point?
The Beatles???????????????????????? FFS! and metallica wish they were prog! not to say they are bad...but come on lets try exclude the popular bullSh** just because you love 'em.
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Metallica were not excactly a popular band during the 80s ... of course they were praised in metal magazines, but their mainstream popularity essentially began with the Black Album. In any case, popularity or personal preference has nothing to do with whether their music contained progressive elements or not. However, popularity and personal preference may help to speed up the addition process, because it simply means that the band gets suggested more often and it is more likely that those who make the decision have access to the music and know it well enough.
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*sigh....total lack of what to say here :( feelings beyond words.
However to all who agree with this sentiment I give you my utmost respect. Peace :) |
And all others can go to hell? Why are you so angry? 
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:34 |
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^ I probably should let your last post go but I won't-- Insulting young people? Not understanding why the Beatles are here and then screaming about it? We should get our heads out of our asses? No, no, no, that won't do at all.
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Jonny Two Shoes
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Joined: May 23 2008
Location: South Africa
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:07 |
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On a further note....apologies to the mods.....passion took over reasoning :)
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Visitor13
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Joined: February 02 2005
Location: Poland
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 17:26 |
Avantgardehead wrote:
I definitely wouldn't mind Sonic Youth and shoegaze being here!! I'd actually have something to do other than troll and make smart-aleck comments.
I might actually... like this site... again...!
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Hey Dianne, welcome back!  I trust you've had a good time away from the site, gazing at shoes.
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Certif1ed
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Joined: April 08 2004
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 17:13 |
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Did someone just fart?
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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Padraic
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 16:59 |
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* aims pretend gun at own head and pulls trigger *
Edited by NaturalScience - October 24 2008 at 16:59
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Jonny Two Shoes
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 16:54 |
Hi there, well I haven't been on these forums for a loong while after my last flaming of the general opinion here.
I don't intend on being the odd one out, the forum troll. My only gripe here is that from the stories I hear from a once respected and regular forum member...I am sadly disappointed in the general taste in progressive music on these forums.
My advice to all the 13 to 14 year olds who don't know what the F*** you are talking about with regards to progressive music....grow up a little and understand what prog music is all about please!
The exclusion of bands such as Stratovarius and the flaming of an awesome Evergrey album...I really think some of you need to get your heads straight.
Why not some more praise for the likes of David Bowie? and yet you get some guys who try to get the likes of Metallica in here without inclusion of more deserving bands.
The Beatles???????????????????????? FFS! and metallica wish they were prog! not to say they are bad...but come on lets try exclude the popular bullSh** just because you love 'em.
*sigh....total lack of what to say here :( feelings beyond words.
However to all who agree with this sentiment I give you my utmost respect. Peace :)
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Avantgardehead
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Joined: December 29 2006
Location: Dublin, OH, USA
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 15:45 |
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There are definitely prog rumblings in the shoegaze scene. The previously-mentioned bastion of shoegaze in My Bloody Valentine, and then the more progressive-minded ones like Slowdive or Auburn Lull. Gregor Samsa fits in better as shoegaze rather than post-rock, IMHO.
Edited by Avantgardehead - October 24 2008 at 15:45
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http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 15:35 |
Avantgardehead wrote:
I definitely wouldn't mind Sonic Youth and shoegaze being here!! I'd actually have something to do other than troll and make smart-aleck comments.
I might actually... like this site... again...!
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Sonic Youth have come up for discussion in the past - maybe it's worth a new thread?
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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Dean
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 15:32 |
^ & ^^ the shoegazing tack is being followed in the Stranglers thread if anyone's interested...
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What?
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Avantgardehead
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Location: Dublin, OH, USA
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 15:27 |
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I definitely wouldn't mind Sonic Youth and shoegaze being here!! I'd actually have something to do other than troll and make smart-aleck comments.
I might actually... like this site... again...!
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http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian
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crimson87
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Joined: January 03 2008
Location: Argentina
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 14:55 |
Actually , no one can't deny Metallica's influence in prog metal with their early albums they really made Metal progress.However , what's bad about this inclusion is that now you can consider lots of bands to be progrelated example , To me Stratovarius and Sonic Youth are way more prog related than Metallica.
What about the Shoegaze scene? Kevin Shields exprimentation with loveless is at least worth of the prog related label. Moreover , I see Krautrock influences on that bands.
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Dean
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 13:34 |
Logan wrote:
Incidentally, not here, but I used to apologetically multinick all the time (though for different, creative-writing reasons). |
hmmm - MySpace deleted two of my profiles for that  - made a right mess of the Blog-based story I was writing 
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What?
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Logan
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Joined: April 05 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 13:30 |
Guns don't kill people, cats with guns kill people. Disturbing pic. My five year year old daughter was scared of it (and cats are her favourite animal). Oh, well, can't expect a site like this to be child friendly. Incidentally, not here, but I used to apologetically multinick all the time (though for different, creative-writing reasons). 
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Ricochet
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 13:25 |
^great, but a while ago Tiddles also made cheese holes into the Pallas albums from the PA database...that's not very impartial from a cat admin...
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Jim Garten
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Posted: October 24 2008 at 12:31 |
micky wrote:
we have a troll hunter back amongst us hahahhaha
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We just set Tiddles, the admin cat on him
We no like trolls.
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