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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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I don't know.
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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And yet I do. How can one explain such a discrepancy? ![]() |
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HarbouringTheSoul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 21 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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If "matured" means "aged", I agree. ![]() |
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The Mystical ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2012 Status: Offline Points: 604 |
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I think that the Division Bell shows a truly matured band.
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Roj ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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The Floyd albums sans Waters are good, but like The Final Cut (which is pretty much a Waters solo album) are nowhere near the quality of those produced by the band as a whole.
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Dayvenkirq ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
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Just like what the people above me said, appreciation is exactly how you've described it, Dean. It still means just what it meant a year ago, five years ago, 50 years ago. I don't think it has anything to do with being old-fashioned.
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Dellinger ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12816 |
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Indeed, it is missing Waters. But I'm not sure that's entirely bad. We already got the masterpieces of the 70's, and even with Waters it's not certain they would have achieved that again (though Amused to Death kind of shows us that perhaps Waters was already ready to give it another try). The Wall and The Final Cut already had quiet a different aproach than the previous few albums. And the same lack of Waters allowed Gilmour to explore some different ideas, and the guitar playing may just as well be better than ever, at least in the solos. |
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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As much as I love and adore Gilmour plus Richard, Division Bell had a missing element and this was Walters.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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I don't hear that superiority.
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Well, if we're being honest with ourselves, we will realize that it's the hardcore fans that are the most critical and complain the most........because they have been led to expect greatness from their idols. Having said that, the word "appreciation" does indeed mean exactly what you say..........but do we have to take everything literally? My general feeling with such threads is that we discuss what we like AND what we dislike about a band and their output, with the understanding that it is all coming from the perspective of people who appreciate the band overall. ![]() |
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Not a big fan of either Division Bell or Momentary lapse, but Division Bell is far superior in just about every possible way.
Of course, I'd take any 70's Floyd album over it any day. |
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Yay Snow Dog!!! Whooheee what stands out to me is your last band in the list, IZZ!!!! I love them and just got (not the most recent album) IZZ - I MOVE and IZZ - my river flows CD's plus IZZ live DVD ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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Dean can't be too cross with me...look at my playlist.
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Dean, I appreciate you very much
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13800 |
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I don't hate The Division Bell, there are some lovely tracks on it. However, I do not appreciate it as much as what I consider to be the golden era of Floyd, I.e. Meddle to The Final Cut. I just think that Gilmour was not as good a songwriter or lyricist as Waters, even with help.
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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You make a good point. Sorry for the negativity. I have to say I don't in any way hate Division Bell. I don't hate any Floyd album. It is all comparative.
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Sumdeus ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 23 2012 Location: SF Bay Area Status: Offline Points: 831 |
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shall we make a separate thread titled "things pink floyd fans don't particularly like about pink floyd" for non-"appreciation" topics?
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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There something about the word 'appreciation' that I like. Not sure what that is exactly, but I think it has something to do with the recognition and enjoyment of the good qualities of someone or something rather than listing all the faults and things I don't like about someone or something. But there you go, that's just me - I'm old fashioned like that.
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What?
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