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richardh
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Posted: June 07 2014 at 01:44 |
superatticman wrote:
IQ have been a recent discovery of mine.
I think they are bloody excellent! Seventh House probably my favourite album so far.
Love a bit of heavy prog.
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I like that you use the word 'heavy'.Not normally a word that is associated with IQ but that album does pack a punch for me. I love Nicholls singing as well and regard that as his best personal vocal performance on an IQ record.
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richardh
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Posted: June 07 2014 at 01:42 |
Horizons wrote:
I can't listen to 7th House because of the damn Zeppelin rip off. |
a somewhat ironic statement knowing how Led Zep loved to raid old blues riffs
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Posted: June 06 2014 at 19:01 |
I can't listen to 7th House because of the damn Zeppelin rip off.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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superatticman
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Posted: June 06 2014 at 18:50 |
IQ have been a recent discovery of mine.
I think they are bloody excellent! Seventh House probably my favourite album so far.
Love a bit of heavy prog.
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Kazza3
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Posted: June 06 2014 at 04:26 |
I don't think Orford's absence has weakened the songwriting, but there's certainly a distinct difference to be heard.
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richardh
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Posted: June 06 2014 at 01:12 |
Perhaps Orford was to IQ what Banks was to Genesis? I think though the main problem is that Road Of Bones could have been a killer single CD release with the correct track selection. There is strong material but its just spread too thinly.
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Posted: June 05 2014 at 08:15 |
I am an IQ fan of very longstanding (7 Stories Into 8 cassette version was my first IQ album) and whilst I enjoy the new album it's certainly not one of their best. I've listened to it plenty of times to judge too.
There is some great material on there but it didn't all make disc one. In particular I am absolutely gobsmacked that Constellations is relegated to the "bonus" disc - what were they thinking of? That's one of their greatest tracks ever imho, classic IQ but with those subtle nods to W&W era Genesis that I love from this band. I also love Hardcore, thus my two favourites are from disc 2. The opener and closer on the "main" disc are excellent, but the epic is leaving me cold. It appears disjointed, there's some nice passages but it just seems stuck together without cohesion. It also has some parts which appear a bit close to the bone (pardon the pun) to The Last Human Gateway, although it doesn't stand comparison with the quality of that classic piece.
It has been opined that the absence of Martin Orford has had a negative impact upon the band's songwriting process for the album (whilst he had retired by the time it was released he still played a large part in writing the tracks on Frequency). I fear there may be some truth in that theory.
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 15:26 |
Their newest album is their best for me. Deserves a place in the top 100, and I desperately need to buy it!
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M27Barney
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 14:59 |
The Epic has grown on me - but as you say - it's basically following the party whip for symphonic prog.....
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richardh
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 14:44 |
Still struggling a bit with it. I would probably rate it overall at about 3 stars. Disc One is just far too safe almost like they are frightened of doing anything out of place. Disc Two just about saves the day.
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Posted: June 03 2014 at 07:25 |
its a great album from IQ,
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Posted: May 29 2014 at 17:36 |
I'm actually surprised at some of the reaction to Road of Bones. I love it and can't stop playing it.
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Posted: May 28 2014 at 01:45 |
sometimes all of us do
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Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
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richardh
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Posted: May 27 2014 at 01:12 |
Are You Sitting Comfortably isn't too bad production wise to my ears. Its a good headphone album if you want 'prog lite'. Sometimes I do.
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M27Barney
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Posted: May 26 2014 at 06:23 |
I haven't heard the menel albums myself for a long while - I think both the CD's suffer with production problems to be honest! - I shall be reviewing Road of Bones shortly - the epic has grown on me...I think it's amazing now - still not impressed with the fade out though...
Edited by M27Barney - May 26 2014 at 06:23
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richardh
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Posted: May 21 2014 at 14:24 |
infandous wrote:
I've never heard the Menel albums at all. Should I bother? I'm really not a big fan of neo-prog bands in general, and IQ has been the one exception over the years, for reasons I can't really explain. So I guess it's a question of whether or not it's worth my time to hear the few good tracks on those albums or not. I'm thinking I'll probably pass. (I probably should have got them 8 years ago when I worked in a CD store and could have got them with my employee discount.....probably for less the $10 each)
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You presumably have already heard most of the best tracks from those albums Human Nature ,Nostalgia/Falling Apart At The Seams and No Love Lost on the Forever Live double CD with Nicholls back in the band so that being case I would say NO.
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Posted: May 21 2014 at 14:04 |
And the best thing about IQ - and the latest CD - The lyrics - not one use of the word "Angel", "Jesus", "Noah" in fact the only esoteric word is - Demon - and I think that Nichols is referring to the Daemons executing in the brain - as proposed by D.C. Dennett's multiple draft explanation of human consciousness...breaking on through way down low (in the subconscious workings of the brain!! - that were designed by the blind watchmaker that is evolution!!!) - YE-HAWWWW....
Edited by M27Barney - May 21 2014 at 14:05
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Posted: May 21 2014 at 11:25 |
I've never heard the Menel albums at all. Should I bother? I'm really not a big fan of neo-prog bands in general, and IQ has been the one exception over the years, for reasons I can't really explain. So I guess it's a question of whether or not it's worth my time to hear the few good tracks on those albums or not. I'm thinking I'll probably pass. (I probably should have got them 8 years ago when I worked in a CD store and could have got them with my employee discount.....probably for less the $10 each)
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richardh
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Posted: May 21 2014 at 01:19 |
Warthur wrote:
TheOcean wrote:
4. Nomzamo (I Really think that P. L. Menel did a great job on that album) |
Heh, I don't rate that album very highly myself but Paul Menel's vocals are a high point for me. I think Nomzamo loses me because it has a slightly unsympathetic production job - certainly, the live versions of songs like No Love Lost (still in the setlist today!) I've heard sound far better. I never felt the need to pickup the spruced-up new editions of Lush Attic or The Wake but if the band chose to give the same treatment to Nomzamo or Are You Sitting Comfortably? I'd definitely be interested because I think those albums could really benefit from an updated mix. |
Although no updated mixes they both have received updated remasters with bonus tracks. Nomzamo has a live version of the excellent song Common Ground and an alternative (acoustic) version of No Love Lost while AYSC? has a live version of my favorite track from the Menel era Nothing At All. I can't say that the remasters are anything special though.
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Warthur
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Posted: May 20 2014 at 07:35 |
TheOcean wrote:
4. Nomzamo (I Really think that P. L. Menel did a great job on that album) |
Heh, I don't rate that album very highly myself but Paul Menel's vocals are a high point for me. I think Nomzamo loses me because it has a slightly unsympathetic production job - certainly, the live versions of songs like No Love Lost (still in the setlist today!) I've heard sound far better. I never felt the need to pickup the spruced-up new editions of Lush Attic or The Wake but if the band chose to give the same treatment to Nomzamo or Are You Sitting Comfortably? I'd definitely be interested because I think those albums could really benefit from an updated mix.
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