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    Posted: December 16 2024 at 16:01
^ Thanks, Marek, done
I slightly edited your text, added a couple of lines regarding "Urojonecałemiasta" album and changed the band's website on PA page. Please let me know if something's wrong.

It also looks like Psychedelic Underground is an illegal issue and has to be deleted. More info on "Urojonecałemiasta" album versions can be found on Discogs.
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Apteka

This bio is very strangely written. It's in English but it sometimes uses inflected forms for the Polish proper nouns. Here's my attempt at fixing those errors and cleaning up the wording a little.


Polish act APTEKA was founded in Gdynia, Poland in 1983 by Jędrzej "Kodyma" KODYMOWSKI (vocals, guitar) and Maciej BLASIAK (vocals, guitar, bass, keyboards, trumpet). Until 1987 the band had only been active as a live unit, with a flexible line up of musicians participating in their concert performances.

In 1987 Maciej WANAT (drums) joins the outfit, and over the course of the following year, the band is reduced to a duo, with only KODYMOWSKI and WANAT remaining.

In 1988 they decide to record their debut album, and in 1990, Big Noise is released.

At that point, APTEKA has expanded it's line-up as well, with Janusz SOKOŁOWSKI (guitars) and Marcin CIEMPIEL (bass) joining the outfit.

This new line-up soon hits the recording studio, and in 1992 Narkotyki is issued. One year later the album Urojonecałemiasta is released, initially on cassette, although it receives a semi-official CD reissue in 2003 with the title Psychedelic Underground.

APTEKA is given a promising record deal by the label SPV Poland, but in 1993, before the work's been completed, drummer WANAT dies tragically in a traffic accident, subsequently ending that particular phase of the formation.

One year later, KODYMOWSKI makes the decision to reform APTEKA, joined by Olaf DERIGLASOFF (bass) and Jacek STROMSKI (drums). The albums Menda in follow suit in 1995 and 1996 respectively. Shortly after the release of the latter DERIGLASOFF leaves the band, leading APTEKA to fold once again in 1998, due to not being able to find a new bassist.

As the years go by, KODYMOWSKI decides to give APTEKA another go. In 2007 former members Martin CIEMPIEL (bass) and Arthur HAJDASZ (drums) join him to reform the band. The result of their endeavor is the self-titled album APTEKA issued the same year. This line-up folds after the release of the album though, and for the record's promotional tour, later that year, KODYMOWSKI brings in two new members - Janek WITASZEK (bass) and Marcin SŁOMIŃSKI (drums).

Currently, the band is on an indefinite hiatus.
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Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

^ It's really Julien who we have to thank for these lists. He ran one of his scripts on the database back in February 2021 and sniffed out all the worst biographies (less than 200 characters, or about three lines of text).
I suppose it's Jose who we really have to thank for these lists! If he hadn't modified close on 3,000 album pages with the phrase: "FLAC download - bandcamp.com", Julien may never have developed his sniffer tool in the first place! LOL
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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

There were days, at least as it seemed to me, when Prog Metal Team was trying to add more and more acts on PA with minimal attention to the quality of their additions.

This all stemmed from the days when people could post new suggestions in the 'Suggest New Bands and Artists' section of the forum with just a line or two of text and hardly any info about the artist - no biography, no artist photo and often no listening links either. A large proportion of these new suggestions were for the Prog Metal sub, since that seems to be what most new up-and-coming bands want to play these days. The PM team in those days consisted of six members, not all of whom were very active, so it could be quite some time before there were enough votes cast for the team leader to either clear (and add) an artist, or reject them. The team therefore ended up being swamped with unfinished evaluations, and at one point there were over forty of them in their chart.

It got to the point where there just wasn't the time available for any research to be done into these artist's biographies, so in the end, in an effort to clear the backlog, many were added with just a simple one line statement for a biography. It was nobody's fault, just an unfortunate consequence of the way the new suggestions forum was being abused by several 'serial suggesters' that we had at the time.

When the new rules regarding the need for there to be an original biography and an artist photo provided before a suggestion could be followed up were introduced back in March 2020, these serial suggesters all disappeared, so we no longer have the problem. The Prog Metal team these days is much smaller and more efficient at completing its evaluations than it once was in any case.

We'll gradually get this list whittled down over the next few months, I'll make sure of that. Smile

Edit: Due to difficulties in getting minor typos and other little errors that weren't spotted until after the biographies had been added to the artists' pages fixed, I won't be writing any more of these biographies until such time as the PA admins trust me enough to allow me to access artist pages and edit any minor errors in the biographies myself. Since that isn't likely to happen any time soon, it appears that the list of prog metal artists with less than 200 character biographies will be frozen at 45 for a while.


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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ Like one of the famous Russian humourists said, someone's heroism is the irresponsibility of the others.

There were days, at least as it seemed to me, when Prog Metal Team was trying to add more and more acts on PA with minimal attention to the quality of their additions. Now we see the results in the form of 3-line bios here and there. 
Don't want to throw stones at PMT, it's just my (probably wrong) observation. After all, there is nothing that can't be fixed.

No one from those days is in the current prog-metal team. 
We've lost three members since I've been in the team. 

I didn't know there were so many bands with one sentence biographies. I re-wrote a couple a few months ago, two bands I discovered in this state on my own. 


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^ Like one of the famous Russian humourists said, someone's heroism is the irresponsibility of the others.

There were days, at least as it seemed to me, when Prog Metal Team was trying to add more and more acts on PA with minimal attention to the quality of their additions. Now we see the results in the form of 3-line bios here and there. 
Don't want to throw stones at PMT, it's just my (probably wrong) observation. After all, there is nothing that can't be fixed.


Edited by NotAProghead - October 28 2024 at 14:16
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^ Yes, I asked Julien in the E&O thread if he could aim his weapon at our database and find out how many artists we have on the site with less than three lines in their biography. You can view the original results of his investigation from three and a half years ago here, but we never transferred the list over to this section of the forum at the time.

The issue of poor, single line biographies was raised again quite recently in the Prog Metal Team thread, so I thought I'd sort the remaining artists (which was all but about three of them lol!) from Julien's original list into the separate sub genres to make it easy for the team members to find them if they were ever feeling bored and wanted something to do.

It was done more in hope than expectation though. Although I'm going to try to bring the Prog Metal list down to something a bit more acceptable over the coming winter, I expect most of these lists will remain largely unaltered until the next ice age arrives! LOL
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^ When I looked at these lists I thought "Oh, David becomes a script-master!" Smile Now it's clear that automation comes from Julien, as usual.
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^ It's really Julien who we have to thank for these lists. He ran one of his scripts on the database back in February 2021 and sniffed out all the worst biographies (less than 200 characters, or about three lines of text). All I've done now is to separate the results out into their respective subs. Embarrassed

I've taken care of half a dozen or so of the original ones, and will continue to chip away at the Prog Metal ones, since that sub is the worst offender by far. I'm posting the new biographies directly in the Prog Metal team thread, and Cristi updates them almost straight away. Where we will find the writers to take care of the rest of these though, I have absolutely no idea! LOL
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^^^^ Great job, David!
I only wonder where can we find writers. Confused
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The rest of the list of artists with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved: :

Symphonic Prog:
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1883 | Cousins and Conrad
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10658 | Hot Flash

Psychedelic/Space Rock:
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11527 | Space Druids
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8093 | Shatter Projeckt / Shatter Project

Indo-Prog/Raga Rock:
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6212 | Kala 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4397 | GHQ 

RIO/Avant-Prog:
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9622 | Tanz

Canterbury Scene:
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10380 | Ocarinah

Zeuhl:
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10810 | Zig Zag 

Proto-Prog
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10467 | Ford Theatre
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Complete list of Progressive Electronic bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved:

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6015 | Carlos Guirao
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2773 | Hydravion
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3528 | Edward M. Zajda
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2619 | Fripp & Eno
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8951 | Christian Richet 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10663 | Sergei Djokanov
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Complete list of Eclectic Prog bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved:

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8217 | Sylvia Bliss
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8182 | Plamp
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8224 | Mr. Euphoria
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9147 | The Perotic Theatre
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9146 | Kraken in the Maelstrom
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8404 | Fetus Maximus
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8767 | Quaker
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9474 | Pingvinorkestern
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Complete list of Krautrock bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved:


https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3592 | Düde Dürst
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3417 | Zippo Zetterlink
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5437 | Thomas Dinger
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7600 | Pyranha
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3506 | Shannondoa
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4677 | AG A.M.
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9095 | Silent Carnival
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7721 | Merlin; Swara; Ilor & Friends
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7675 | Munju
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2564 | Cozmic Corridors
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4251 | Blumen Des Exotischen Eises
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Complete list of JR/F bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved:

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9915 | Anwkozik
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9308 | Francis Cang
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4619 | Le Grand Nebuleux
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9616 | Animus Trio
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1754 | Den Za Den
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8500 | Jacques La Greca
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9250 | Rains
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8704 | Energy Of Sound 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9693 | Bosque
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10147 | Mobius Strip
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9477 | G.A.O.S.
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10038 | Rantama Trio 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9710 | Suhy Silvergold & Alvarado
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Complete list of Post Rock/Math Rock bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved:

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9213 | Kraene
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9210 | Nova Scotia 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9637 | Yawn Hic
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9203 | Hearts Of Atlantis
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9212 | Caves Of Steel
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9586 | Hungria
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9563 | Acantilados
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9632 | Like Nomads
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9201 | Loraine
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9642 | Echoes And Signals
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9303 | The Beauty The World Makes Us Hope For
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9640 | Brontide
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Complete list of Crossover Prog bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about three lines) as it was at 7th February 2021. I checked all these again just now, and none have yet been improved:

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9075 | Psicolorama 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6490 | Your Electric Grandmother
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6234 | Clover Seeds
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7165 | Dzejbi
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7653 | i.AB
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6881 | Daphne
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6277 | DDNZ 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9083 | Trevor Harmonic
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9046 | Taelus
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9041 | Martin Worster

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Originally posted by Gordy Gordy wrote:

Things look pretty sparse and grim for Blood Incantation and Warforged, the former a big name in the modern metal scene. Would anyone be down to step up to the plate and help them out?

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11100

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11180

Those biographies are now both done. For the record, and in the hope that somebody else might chip in and help out with a few, here is the complete list of Progressive Metal bands with biographies of less than 200 characters (about 3 lines of text) as it was on 7th February 2021. I'm pretty sure that the biographies of bands added to the site since then will be adequate at the very least, so this list should still be complete.

I looked at each of these bands again before compiling the list to make sure that the biographies were still in need of attention.

https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11017 | Veil of Conspiracy
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11027 | Kawn 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11020 | Sky Signals
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11106 | Surface Of The Sun
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11086 | Davide Pepi
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11094 | Destrage
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11186 | Varaha
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11102 | Trappist System Trio
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11085 | Pyramid
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11191 | Chris Prophet
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11093 | Etrange
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11190 | Reality Check
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11110 | Retrosphere 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11021 | Shattered Glass
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11103 | Toska
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11088 | Oceanica
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11024 | Noisedriver
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11091 | Haunter
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11188 | Seven Nines and Tens
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11194 | Nocturnus AD
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11092 | Halcyon Reign
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11192 | Omnibeing
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10794 | Dimension Eleven
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11097 | Aspic
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11101 | Vanessa Van Basten
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11181 | Aeons
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10797 | Kadinja
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11109 | Sleeping In Traffic
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11096 | Avandra 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10770 | Influence X
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10777 | Valermada
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10796 | Left As Rain 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6304 | Gladiator
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11178 | Fear Of Missing Out
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11025 | Marrow 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10843 | Anvil Therapy 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6179 | Sigma 5
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5880 | Sea of Nectar
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11108 | Slice The Cake
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11105 | Those Darned Gnomes
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6476 | Shadyon
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10848 | Wheel
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11087 | Parallel Dimension
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11177 | Feather Mountain
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10766 | Convulsing
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6735 | Admiral Browning 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=11187 | The Night Watch
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6471 | Entropia
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6295 | Centaurus
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10846 | Project Infinity
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=9889 | Infamia
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6468 | Black Sea 
https://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=10656 | Eigengrau

I'll post similar lists here for the other PA sub genres over the next day or two.

Edit: List updated 02/11/24 (Varaha done).


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2024 at 02:46
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ Thanks, done.

"To ease our pain", please in future:
- give links to the artists' pages,
- check pages after updating them (and correct things like "the enigmatic and complex "P�le" (1975)");
- post correct names (it was not obvious that Blue Motion is actually BLUE MOTION). Smile

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for the French accent on vowels, sometimes it works, sometimes if screws up


Edited by Sean Trane - August 06 2024 at 02:46
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NotAProghead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2024 at 13:17
^ Thanks, done.

"To ease our pain", please in future:
- give links to the artists' pages,
- check pages after updating them (and correct things like "the enigmatic and complex "P�le" (1975)");
- post correct names (it was not obvious that Bue Morttion is actually BLUE MOTION). Smile
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