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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Andy it's not the bands fault, even I cannot deny that they are so SO wow good, I love them actually no doubt their moozik even excites me. However their ratings over 800 is a touch exaggerated especially if most who rated them came rated them 5 stars and others low then disappeared. This was long ago and certainly not by the band I sincerely doubt that, those numbers to be honest even without prior proof do speak for themselves, a band having over 800 ratings for one single album not even Pink Floyd gets one third of that. We must remember that peeps need to rate them here :) The only flaw I see here on PA is that anyone can come and rate albums without registering their name or email. This does not exist on other sites as far as I know?
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infocat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: June 10 2011 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 4671 |
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If you'd pre-ordered it you could have it already, like I do!
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echolynfan ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: September 06 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 39 |
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echolyn's new album is being released on July 31st - you can get a HQ Lossless download from:
https://echolyn.bandcamp.com/ or the cd at CDBaby.com or other fine prog retailers! In the meantime - here's track 4 from "i heard you listening" in uncompressed 24 bit wav: The album IMO is their best work to date!
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" Fashions and fads a fictitious flirtation the foremost foundation to fit in" - echolyn (As The World)
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Andy Webb ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: June 04 2010 Location: Terria Status: Offline Points: 13298 |
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Yes, I am well aware ratings manipulation happens, but it's usually manifested in one of two ways - 1) a user rates a huge number of releases as 5 stars or 1 star or 2) a lesser-known band makes several accounts to bolster their album(s)' ratings. As for Anglagard, their three albums have nearly 3,000 ratings between them. Even if the band made 500 extra accounts to rate their albums, the actual star rating would barely budge. The PA rating system weighs ratings so low that a single user on a popular album has nearly no effect on the actual rating. If you've found some evidence that this occurred I'd love to take a look at it, but I am highly skeptical that Anglagard has any manipulation (and if they do, why doesn't Echolyn? Your logic should apply there as well).
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Silly Andy.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Andy surely you are not that naïve. This happens in the music industry, it's the norm really the record labels do this all the time! And yes if a band has constantly new members rating their album 5 stars meanwhile same new members rating other top 10 albums one or two stars this is manipulation. Many have been resolved tho' thanks to collabs here. Luckily bands I am connected with did not suffer much on those ratings because they were not in the top 10.
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Andy Webb ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: June 04 2010 Location: Terria Status: Offline Points: 13298 |
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I have no idea what she's talking about; I've never heard of Anglagard manipulating our ratings... they've been around for almost 25 years, I have no idea why they would care about their rating on our website.
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miamiscot ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3630 |
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I'm shocked to hear this!!! Well, I guess I'm not but wtf?
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Todd ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RPI / Heavy Prog Team Joined: December 19 2007 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 3472 |
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Last night ProgScape Radio did a three hour show dedicated to Echolyn. Throughout the show they played the entire new album, complete with commentary about each song, the writing process, and recording by Brett and Chris.
Go to progscaperadio.com and check it out!!
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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well I`m surfing the forum and listening to Echolyn 2012...
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Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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I`m
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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yes they are but when will the new album see the light of day in 2015...
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Echolyn last album was released in 2012, they are brilliant and unlike Anglagard who have great talent too (although not the band's fault) they do rating manipulation thus scoring themselves high (nothing wrong with that) however also score other bands on purpose very low, undeservingly so, Echolyn never did this, their ratings are by pure merit! |
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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see we`ve still gotten to hear the release date of the new album. but I`ve been using the time playing there fine bodies of work...
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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the albums I`ve gotten out to blast ATW/Echo2012
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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its always special albums once the guys put it out...
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Andy Webb ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin Joined: June 04 2010 Location: Terria Status: Offline Points: 13298 |
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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right on its the best news roll along 2015...
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Christopher Buzby (band member of Echolyn - vocals and keys) said this: As of last weekend all the basic tracks are recorded; mixing is next! Can't wait for you all to hear it when it drops in a few months!
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Tom Wyatt (band member from Echolyn) said this: We're getting into the homestretch with the new album. So hopefully, in Spring of 2015:-)
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