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    Posted: August 22 2007 at 19:51
Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Egg was great.  It strikes me as a cross really between Canterbury and symphonic, musically it is very symphonic, but had those silly canterbury lyrics with great song titles like "Don't Worry James, Your Socks are Hanging in the Cellar with Thomas".  The main member was Dave Stewart later of Hatfield and the North.  Definitely worth checking out their first album "Egg" and "The Polite Force" is also a great CD.  I do not yet have their posthumous "Civil Surface."  But I've heard that's getting a remaster.  So it will soon be in my collection. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 23:05
Egg was great.  It strikes me as a cross really between Canterbury and symphonic, musically it is very symphonic, but had those silly canterbury lyrics with great song titles like "Don't Worry James, Your Socks are Hanging in the Cellar with Thomas".  The main member was Dave Stewart later of Hatfield and the North.  Definitely worth checking out their first album "Egg" and "The Polite Force" is also a great CD.  I do not yet have their posthumous "Civil Surface."  But I've heard that's getting a remaster.  So it will soon be in my collection. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 15 2007 at 22:55
So, no one knows anything about Egg?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2007 at 11:12
O.K, my turn to ask about one. The only Canterbury bands I really know are Caravan, and Gong. So what about Egg? I've seen them in discussions, but know nothing about them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2007 at 15:00
Originally posted by memowakeman memowakeman wrote:

 
Thanks for the info Ivan, actually Fernández Ledesma is one of the most prolific musicians in the prog scene in México, he has released several albums which sadly are unknown even here in México, right now he is playing with another prog rock band called "Saena" where ex Nazca´s and Decibel´s violin player Alejandro Sánchez plays as well.
 
There is no much info available about José Fernández Ledesma, but i will look for it and see if i can help with his addition, i am sure Cesar Inca could help as wellTongue
 
Thanks to you, as HT told me after opening this thread, he created it to prioize the attention of the Progheads towards real Prog bands and as far as I understand, Fernández Ledesma is a cult icon of Mexican Ethnic or Folk-Symphonic Prog and he deserves a place here since long time ago.
 
I'm happy that my post is leading to some additions like the already mentioned Fernández  by you and Robert Erdesz, I'm sure Sean who already took note of the bands will also add a  couple.
 
Be sure to coordinate with Sean, because you may be making double parallel efforts.
 
Prog on!!!!!!!
 
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PS: Check www.manticornio.com  (Manticornio) and http://www.dlsi.ua.es/~inesta/LCDM/presenta.html  (La Caja de música where Cesar Inca writes), both are great sources for Prog in Spanish and every language but mainly for rare Latin American and Spanish bands or artists.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2007 at 12:38
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Maybe somebody is interested to search as James, so here is the info provided in the album about this artists as a first step:
 
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2.     Jose Luis Fernandez is one of those amazing performers who are capable of continuously transforming their style. In that way, each of the albums that have ever been released by Jose Luis sounds very fresh, at least," writes Vitaly Menshikov of Progressor.net of Ledesma's sixth album Al Filo. This Mexican keyboardist got his start in the band Nirgal Vallis, releasing one album, Ymurio La Tarde.

The first release under his own name was 1991's Universos Imaginarios, followed in 1992 by Evos Luz. It wasn't until 1996 that a third album, Motivos Para Perderse was released (though he joined Alquimia on 1996's Lenguas Muertas in between). This was followed by 1997's Extractos, about which E-Prog's Mark Fonda writes "[T]his is a fabulous orchestral, pastoral, symphonic and multi-faceted endeavor... along the lines of After Crying from Hungary or Hecenia from France... ". 2000 saw two releases, Sol Central and Dicen Que Somos Dioses Y Nos Sonamos Hombres. 2002 saw the release of Al Filo, and in 2003, Designios. On most releases, Margarita Botello has joined him on vocals, synths and percussion. 

 
 
Maybe this could lead to additions?
 
Any volunteer to search?
 
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Thanks for the info Ivan, actually Fernández Ledesma is one of the most prolific musicians in the prog scene in México, he has released several albums which sadly are unknown even here in México, right now he is playing with another prog rock band called "Saena" where ex Nazca´s and Decibel´s violin player Alejandro Sánchez plays as well.
 
There is no much info available about Fernández Ledesma, but i will look for it and see if i can help with his addition, i am sure Cesar Inca could help as wellTongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 21:53
Hi HT Yes i thought it could be in both, but Abbhama is IMHO more an unfamiliar artist than a priceless Relic for all the people.
 
You and I liked it, but it's an acquired taste, I'm simply addicted.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 21:22
On Spock's Beard, I am a big fan of the Neal Morse albums. The last one (without him) is not bad, but it is easy to see that he was the real creative force behind the band. I think a lot of people get down on them because it tends to be a bit derivative, and has some AOR influence. Who cares, it's great music. It's full of hooks, but also complex. "V" is the standout favorite, but I find "The Light" has many charms. In my opinion, you can't go wrong with any of the Morse albums, but "Day for Night" would probably be the weakest.

Now for Abbhama. First, this probably should have been brought up in the "Priceless Relic" thread, as this thread is supposed to be for people looking for information (Ivan ). But it's here now. This is a rarity that is worth finding. It's some of the oddest, most irresistible prog you will ever find. I don't mean odd in the Mike Patton, or Frank Zappa way. It just kind of makes you scratch your head. At first you have to wonder what kind of sound these guys originally wanted when the band was formed. But then you realize that it works. People ask about pop prog. I don't know if this fits the definition, but it's close. It's truly irresistible. It may not be a masterwork to hold up next to "Foxtrot," but it's a novelty that you can be proud of having in your collection.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 17:43
Originally posted by glass house glass house wrote:

Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Can anyone fill me in on (wow, I am quite embarrased to ask this) Spocks Beard?

They seem like a pretty big band, but dont exactly get high ratings.
 
I have their Beware of Darkness cd and The Kindness of Strangers. I've played the former more than the later one so I'll give you a quick tour of that cd.
 
The first time I heard Beware of Darkness I was delighted with the Gentle Giant influences. But that's not all, listening more I think they make some really good classic prog with enough modern input ( at that day ) to stay interesting. Influences enough but original in it's own way. The recent stuff is I believe more mainstream rock. Don't know all their releases. Give them a try.
 
 
 
 
 
It seems snow and v are they're greatest albums, I will look at those
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 17:25
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Can anyone fill me in on (wow, I am quite embarrased to ask this) Spocks Beard?

They seem like a pretty big band, but dont exactly get high ratings.
 
I have their Beware of Darkness cd and The Kindness of Strangers. I've played the former more than the later one so I'll give you a quick tour of that cd.
 
The first time I heard Beware of Darkness I was delighted with the Gentle Giant influences. But that's not all, listening more I think they make some really good classic prog with enough modern input ( at that day ) to stay interesting. Influences enough but original in it's own way. The recent stuff is I believe more mainstream rock. Don't know all their releases. Give them a try.
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 17:22

Now is the turn for a very rare band, just posted about them in the Symphonic thread but really they became an addiction, I'm talking about ABBHAMA, a septept from Indonesia who released one cassette in 1978 or 1979 (the inormation mentions the two years) called "Alam Raya",. which was hard to find until a Japanese label edited a CD.

 

Simply out of this world!!!!!

 

Not because of quality because they are not outstanding, but because of the original of theior proposal.

 

The band is formed by the brain and sould Iwan Madjid a classically trained pianist, ONA a keyboardist who makes miracles with a kit that sounds like a 200 bucks Casiotrone and Dhrama who plays a very sweet flute, the other 4 members play Oboe (Hendro), Robin on drums, bass (Darwin) and Cok B in the guitar

 

But the most incredible fact is the vocals of Madjid, he sounds like a 12 years old Jon Anderson singing for an made in India musical. Their sound is well…..everything combined from Asiatic Disco to Euro Pop with a solid Symphonic structure, Neo Classical touches and Baroque fugues with an ethnic edge.

 

If you add to that a clear Focus and Triumvirat influence, you got a complete salad bar that tastes very well

 

Sometimes it’s hard to take them seriously but I end listening it over and over because the voice is hypnotic, really a great acquisition for any Proghead.

 

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 17:14
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I would like to learn more about Art Zoyd


can you tell me how much you've heard by them? they have done work in two major areas, one being dark, RIO chamber rock with symphony-style percussion and the other in orchestrated but somewhat industrial, ambient film scores.

they're... not a happy band. they're comparable to Univers Zero, and I think members of each band maintained an exchange. it's also hard to buy their older work because only box sets seem to be available, and that wouldn't be a good starting point for a new listener.

All I've heard are the samples in the bands archive page, I was quite impressed with the first song but not so much the following two, I cant even remember what those songse were called now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 16:32

Can anyone fill me in on (wow, I am quite embarrased to ask this) Spocks Beard?

They seem like a pretty big band, but dont exactly get high ratings.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 09:08
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Embryo are part of a musical collective that started in the late 60s. This collective chiefly consisted of the bands Embryo, Amon Düül2, Guru  Guru and Kraan; other connected bands were Missus Beastly, Harmonia and Karthago (not in the archives yet, by the way). These bands exchanged musicians back and forth. Embryo started out as a jazz-rock act, but soon started integrating ethnic music from all around the world. In the late 70s they started a trip into the orient into countries like Afghanistan and India. In India they studied Indian music at the Karnataka College of Percussion, with whom they recorded several albums. (The Karnataka Colloge of Percussion is quite famous; two of the best percussionists of today, Trilok Gurtu and Ramesh Shotam, studied there). They also made albums with the African Yoruba Dun-Dun Orchestra and with South-American influences. Important members of Embryo are Christian Burchard, the founder and only constant figure in an ever-changing line-up (drums, xylophone, marimba and other tuned percussion), guitar and oud player Roman Bunka (who was recently added to the archives), Chris Karrer of Amon Düül 2 (who plays guitar and oud too), Edgar Hofmann on violin and saxes and Roland Schaeffer of Guru Guru. A highly recommended album to get into their music is "Embryo's Reise" which documents their trip to Afghanistan and India. Also definitely listen to the only sound example of them in the database ("Radio Marrakesh / Orient Express").
 
Sounds interesting, I asked for an album to a friend at the radio who has everything, then if I like it i will get it.
 
If you're interested in ethnic music, you should get "One World Tapestry" a good compilation of new ethnic/World artists from around the world, you will get good music and collaborate with the sudanese Refugees.
 
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If you are interested in ethnic music, try to get some albums of Rabih Abou Khalil, one of the leading oud players in the world. He is of Afghan origin, but grew up in Germany and lived in New York for a long time too. The music is a mix of jazz, rock and afghan traditional music. It definitely pays to see a live concert of him; he announces all songs with a little speech, and his announcements are full of weird humour. He worked with Joachim Kühn for a while too.
Here a video of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHmnjJJ_5No


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 08:15
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I would like to learn more about Art Zoyd


can you tell me how much you've heard by them? they have done work in two major areas, one being dark, RIO chamber rock with symphony-style percussion and the other in orchestrated but somewhat industrial, ambient film scores.

they're... not a happy band. they're comparable to Univers Zero, and I think members of each band maintained an exchange. it's also hard to buy their older work because only box sets seem to be available, and that wouldn't be a good starting point for a new listener.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 08:03
Discus: a mix of metal, jazz and some Indonesian traditional folk music as well. quite crazy and interesting at the same times. their sound is really unique and original, the folk elements probably contributes a lot to this.

I've only heard '...Tot Licht'(and err, reviewed it too). They have a sample in the 'chives, which is a good representatives of their music i think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 07:49
I would like to learn more about Art Zoyd and Discus.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2007 at 22:55
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Embryo are part of a musical collective that started in the late 60s. This collective chiefly consisted of the bands Embryo, Amon Düül2, Guru  Guru and Kraan; other connected bands were Missus Beastly, Harmonia and Karthago (not in the archives yet, by the way). These bands exchanged musicians back and forth. Embryo started out as a jazz-rock act, but soon started integrating ethnic music from all around the world. In the late 70s they started a trip into the orient into countries like Afghanistan and India. In India they studied Indian music at the Karnataka College of Percussion, with whom they recorded several albums. (The Karnataka Colloge of Percussion is quite famous; two of the best percussionists of today, Trilok Gurtu and Ramesh Shotam, studied there). They also made albums with the African Yoruba Dun-Dun Orchestra and with South-American influences. Important members of Embryo are Christian Burchard, the founder and only constant figure in an ever-changing line-up (drums, xylophone, marimba and other tuned percussion), guitar and oud player Roman Bunka (who was recently added to the archives), Chris Karrer of Amon Düül 2 (who plays guitar and oud too), Edgar Hofmann on violin and saxes and Roland Schaeffer of Guru Guru. A highly recommended album to get into their music is "Embryo's Reise" which documents their trip to Afghanistan and India. Also definitely listen to the only sound example of them in the database ("Radio Marrakesh / Orient Express").
 
Sounds interesting, I asked for an album to a friend at the radio who has everything, then if I like it i will get it.
 
If you're interested in ethnic music, you should get "One World Tapestry" a good compilation of new ethnic/World artists from around the world, you will get good music and collaborate with the sudanese Refugees.
 
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Embryo are part of a musical collective that started in the late 60s. This collective chiefly consisted of the bands Embryo, Amon Düül2, Guru  Guru and Kraan; other connected bands were Missus Beastly, Harmonia and Karthago (not in the archives yet, by the way). These bands exchanged musicians back and forth. Embryo started out as a jazz-rock act, but soon started integrating ethnic music from all around the world. In the late 70s they started a trip into the orient into countries like Afghanistan and India. In India they studied Indian music at the Karnataka College of Percussion, with whom they recorded several albums. (The Karnataka Colloge of Percussion is quite famous; two of the best percussionists of today, Trilok Gurtu and Ramesh Shotam, studied there). They also made albums with the African Yoruba Dun-Dun Orchestra and with South-American influences. Important members of Embryo are Christian Burchard, the founder and only constant figure in an ever-changing line-up (drums, xylophone, marimba and other tuned percussion), guitar and oud player Roman Bunka (who was recently added to the archives), Chris Karrer of Amon Düül 2 (who plays guitar and oud too), Edgar Hofmann on violin and saxes and Roland Schaeffer of Guru Guru. A highly recommended album to get into their music is "Embryo's Reise" which documents their trip to Afghanistan and India. Also definitely listen to the only sound example of them in the database ("Radio Marrakesh / Orient Express").


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2007 at 20:09
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

One of the most underrated bands in the archive are Embryo. By "underrated" I mean that hardly anyone knows them and even fewer discuss them. They definitely deserve more attention; they are the real inventors of World Music.


Thanks for the recommendation Friede. Please tell us some more about the band.


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