Björk vs Kate Bush

All I can say, really nothing against Björk. I love her Vespertine and Medulla-albums, also listened quite much her first three albums and like them too. I have even seen her on the stage in the nineties. It´s just happens to me (like I think everybody happens) that even the artist that I have loved really much, doesn´t make music that I like anymore. I listen very little electrobased music (I think the genius of Medulla is almost all that stuff is made by the human voice although that`s highly manipulated). Really thinking it´s great thing Björk is still making music, because I rather listen her music from the radio than some others. I don´t have to buy her new music. So this is just matter of taste, I don´t love Björk`s new music anymore like I still love Bushes new.

moshkito wrote: Mortte wrote: All those singles except Lionsong is from her early days, when she was developing her music. Lionsong is not a bad song, but really haven´t got anything new. It could have been in Volta album or any of them came after that. Her songs today are very commonly sung very great way and in the back there are some electronic plurp. Of course I understand there are people who likes them. It's a shame that you can not appreciate "poetry" in its many forms. Unlike what you do, the work that KB does these days, is more "free-form" poetry, than it is a "song" and you can not do this, duplicate it, or even conceive of it, because they way you describe your feelings and thoughts is sort of like ... the Sex Pistols ... mostly fake and obviously media-lookfor attention to make it look like you have something to say. Sadly, you do not even have an appreciation for ... let's say a Picasso ... so you saying that KB has nothing new, is like you saying ... you do not see anything in it anyway ... so why bother even commenting ... no, you have to say something not nice, and then expect people to like what you do? Btw, "electronic plurp" is more of what you use and do in some of the examples you have shown! Both KB and Bjork, are not fake people that are tuned to pleasing appearances for the sake of fame ... they live their work and life for it ... while you are hoping that your anger shows up somewhere for being left behind in the fight for a little attention in the music business. You won't likely get it with your attitude is my guess. Just remember ... it's not about the anger ... it's about your own work and music! If you want to last as long as KB and Bjork have. It's not likely they would have lasted this long if they were vain idiots!

Mortte wrote: All those singles except Lionsong is from her early days, when she was developing her music. Lionsong is not a bad song, but really haven´t got anything new. It could have been in Volta album or any of them came after that. Her songs today are very commonly sung very great way and in the back there are some electronic plurp. Of course I understand there are people who likes them.

Well that's mostly because her recent years haven't produced as many well-known hits, still Medulla, Biophilia and Vulnicura each introduced a completely new sound for her (I haven't heard the new one yet), while Volta was possibly her most varied (The Dull Flame of Desire, Vertebrae by Vertebrae and Declare Independence were quite new for her). So sure, she always clearly brings in her own character but she's notoriously alienated a lot of fans over the years and also gained new fans by constantly evolving.

All those singles except Lionsong is from her early days, when she was developing her music. Lionsong is not a bad song, but really haven´t got anything new. It could have been in Volta album or any of them came after that. Her songs today are very commonly sung very great way and in the back there are some electronic plurp. Of course I understand there are people who likes them.

Bjork sucks. Stupid Emo kid

I think I saw that Wuthering Heights vid from television in the late seventies or early eighties. I was under ten, so really didn´t understand her then. I think she was quite UFO that time in Finland and for example my brothers, whose favourite music I listen that time didn´t like her at all. I understood, how genius she was in the nineties. Kick Inside was the first album to hit me.

noni wrote: scruffydragon wrote: Imagine sitting in front of the television as a kid back in about 1978.Top of the Pops was on and there was this weird and wonderful woman doing her strange dance whilst singing to Wuthering Heights. That image and sound stuck in that kids mind and can still be seen and heard in the minds eye some 30+ years later. That's power......real power.  I was that Kid!!!!!....... She's not that much older then me...  In fact,  she was quite young when she started!....  Lust!!!!!

Yeah, I had the same experience with Captain Kangaroo.

Imagine sitting in front of the television as a kid back in about 1978.Top of the Pops was on and there was this weird and wonderful woman doing her strange dance whilst singing to Wuthering Heights. That image and sound stuck in that kids mind and can still be seen and heard in the minds eye some 30+ years later. That's power......real power. 

My dad might have said that he was too busy listening to classical music (Western Art Music) that he didn't have time for other music. I don't blame him as he said his interest was harmony, although he did respect some jazz and liked Gene Krupa (and in other music he liked more traditional Ravi Shankar music). I have known quite a few classical music snobs who looked down on other music including pop and rock (other than jazz which seems to get a pass). I doubt such people would be that impressed with most Prog either, and think, ooh, classic Genesis is up there with Beethoven or that Yes is as skilled in composition as Bach..

I like Bjork and Kate Bush, but then I like art pop. I especially like Bjork's Homogenic, Post, Vespertine and Debut albums (a particular fave of mine has been Homogenic Live). Aside from that, I love the Lars von Trier film Dancer in the Dark, but I don't own the Selmasongs soundtrack ("You catch me when I fall". She was popular in Japan when I was working there in the 90s, so I first got familiar with her stuff there.



That said, I've had a very long-time love affair with Kate Bush, which started when I first saw her music videos (I especially loved "The Man with the Child in His Eyes". Later on I fell big for "Wow". The first CD I got was Kate Bush: The Whole Story, and then the debut which I adored, and later albums. So she gets my vote. The B side of Hounds of Love (the Ninth Wave suite) is a particular favourite of mine these days. I hadn't listened to the album in ages, but was reminded of it in a BBC program I watched on youtube. It's called The Kate Bush Story - Running up That Hill . There is something cinematic about it, and Kate Bush has said that she thinks of it in filmic terms.



EDIT: Was think of embedding this vid before, and because The Sensual World doesn't get get mentioned much I will (I got it in the bargain cassette bin fairly soon after it came out). I love this song which features David Gilmour on guitar (Gilmour was important in the kick-starting of Bush's career, by the way).



Edited by Logan - December 12 2017 at 11:15

chopper wrote: I like Bjork, but no contest against the best female solo artist.

Agree.