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TripBalls
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Topic: I'm prolly the only one here but....Genesis? Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:44 |
I really don't like Genesis, I don't know what it is maybe the fact that I haven't explored their music enough and only heard the sh*t on the radio. I've listened to all the listed genres in the archives, mostly RIO, Cantebury, Krautrock, Space, and some of the easier to listen to bands (Porcupine Tree, Tool, Rush, etc). Theres something about Genesis that just boils my blood when it comes on (I wouldn't be too worried but my work plays a station that plays them a lot). As a prog fan, is there something wrong w/ me, because Genesis seems to be the under the fav's of everyone here. I've tried giving some of Peter Gabriel's music a chance but it didn't exactly click. I also really enjoy Brand X, though I can't imagine there being ne similarities in sound. So, either tell me theres nothing wrong me and I just have a different taste in music (or flame me for seeking validation that a band sux, w/e) or tell me I'm wrong while also giving me a reason and maybe suggesting an album that could possibly turn me on to them. Another question, and just being curious, what makes them so great???
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:47 |
Burrrppp.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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jammun
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 21:49 |
You ain't the only one, and as for the last question, I don't know. Lord knows I've tried.
However, Ivan could tell you why.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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King Crimson776
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 22:02 |
So you're saying they annoy you when they come on the radio... well they only play Collins era on the radio, have you even heard the Gabriel stuff like Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound etc.? It seems unlikely that you haven't but it's just that you talk about being annoyed when hearing them on the radio.
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 22:07 |
yeah the radio, no wonder, the last prog thing by Genesis I heard on the radio was 'Back in NYC' in the early 80s when some prog was still acceptable.. I'd say start with Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and then either backwards in their catalog or forward if you prefer a more polished sound
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Lucent
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 22:13 |
You're not the only one. Believe me. I personally don't like them to a high degree.
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A Person
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 22:13 |
I used to not like Genesis, I couldn't see what all the fuss was about either. One night I decided to sit in the car at my brother's football game and I listened to Selling England by the Pound again. About half way through The Battle of Epping Forest it just started "making sense". Trespass is a good album to get into, Gabriel's vocals are great, the music is beautiful, and it ends with The Knife, which is much harder rock in comparison to the rest of the album. When I am trying out a new band or (especially) if I am trying to get into one I find the best thing to do is to wait until I can listen to them completely undistracted, without expecting anything to come of the music. The main thing is that if you listen to them with a clean slate, instead of the expectation that they WILL be the best prog band ever, or expecting them to not be any good, then it helps you to notice positive things about the music. I'm not saying you absolutely HAVE to like Genesis, but at least don't give up on them yet.
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Drew
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 22:27 |
You're not alone- I like a lot of older prog, but I don''t really enjoy Genesis- I like SEBTP- but I thought Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme were boring and uneventful.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 22:56 |
Ivan is going to come down hard on everyone in this thread that be dissin' 'em.
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Alitare
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 23:11 |
Oh well. I only like SEBTP. But I like it a hell of a lot.
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theBox
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 01:59 |
Well, for me, genesis in their classic albums era (nursery through wind & wuthering) while lacking the flashy playing of some of their contemporaries (yes or ELP for example) had incredible HARMONIC richness and complexity. Therein lies their magic and "progressivness". Some of the chord progressions and the modulations Banks uses (though i'm sure the others contributed just as well) are insane! So I would encourage you to pay attention to them again, focusing on that aspect of their music and maybe you will appreciate them a LOT more.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 02:01 |
TripBalls wrote:
I haven't explored their music enough and only heard the sh*t on the radio.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 02:02 |
^yeah man you gotta listen to tried and true pre 1989 artists its the only way
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Alitare
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 02:04 |
I can't get enough of those pre-89 heroes!
Are we corrupt?
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 02:08 |
Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
^yeah man you gotta listen to tried and true pre 1989 artists its the only way |
I copy my CDs onto casettes to make it an authentic experience.
Edited by Henry Plainview - May 06 2009 at 02:09
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 02:08 |
Alitare wrote:
I can't get enough of those pre-89 heroes!
Are we corrupt?
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Definitely not corrupt. Genesis came out with SEBTP before 1989, hence it's good music.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 02:17 |
Your list me makes visibly cringe. I trust you'll engage with pre-89 music soon. Quality artists like Genesis might just do the trick for a lost soul like you
Edited by WalterDigsTunes - May 06 2009 at 02:17
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oddentity
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 02:19 |
They were a great bad, very original, but they were very removed from the blues side of rock - far more removed than, say, Yes or Pink Floyd. I can understand how that would annoy certain kinds of people.
All I can say is keep listening to them with an open mind and maybe one day they will click with you. They were certainly one of a kind, a band that produced many delightful, fascinating compositions in their prime.
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el dingo
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 03:15 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
^yeah man you gotta listen to tried and true pre 1989 artists its the only way |
I copy my CDs onto casettes to make it an authentic experience. |
I bung all my 1970s stuff on to eight track and play it in my Ford Cortina/Taunus/whatever it's called.
Genesis? Up to and including The Lamb is the stuff IMO. SEBTP ain't got a top rating for nothing - and Foxtrot's nearly as goodIMO.
Just what we need... another Genesis thread
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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angelmk
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Posted: May 06 2009 at 09:40 |
Selling England by the Pound is a Masterpiece of Prog music. albums till The lamb lies down on broadway are excellent, a trick of the tail and wind and wuthering are still good, after that, stuf they made in the 80' and 90' is unexeptable for me
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