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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote toroddfuglesteg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2011 at 15:38

It is like the review of the George Michael gig in Austria'g biggest newspaper Kronen Zeitung in the Tuesday edition. Fantastic gig, their reviewer wrote in a one page feature. That reviewer was the only one in Austria who did not know that the gig had been cancelled some days before due to George Michael taking severe ill and cancelling all gigs. At least the review of his "gig" would had cheered him up a lot.  

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Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=21243


I am 100% sure this guy hasn't listened to the whole Bass Communion and 6LA8 discography to rate them all 1 stars.




If you're 100% sure without any evidence I hope for the defendan't sake, you ain't called for jury duty any time soon. I suspect you're correct here but we can't prove this and you know that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ivan_Melgar_M Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2011 at 19:02
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

 

If you're 100% sure without any evidence I hope for the defendan't sake, you ain't called for jury duty any time soon. I suspect you're correct here but we can't prove this and you know that.

That's why I said 99.99999999999999%, there's always a chance that the guy is in fact an insane masochist that only buys albums he hates.Wink

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Neck Romancer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2011 at 17:09
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=21243


I am 100% sure this guy hasn't listened to the whole Bass Communion and 6LA8 discography to rate them all 1 stars.




If you're 100% sure without any evidence I hope for the defendan't sake, you ain't called for jury duty any time soon. I suspect you're correct here but we can't prove this and you know that.

Could you send a PM to him asking about the validity of his ratings? I sent one and I haven't received an answer.



Really, I wouldn't listen to 2 albums by the same band if I thought both were complete rubbish; he seems to have heard 14 BC albums...


And there's something weird 'bout this mate too: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=33006

Rating an entire discography 1 star does not look legitimate at all.


And if we can't prove anything then what is the purpose of this thread? Confused Anyone who rated an album before its release, for example, could have received a promo copy.


Edited by Polo - November 29 2011 at 17:17
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2011 at 04:50
^ I agree, why fling yer wonga at albums by artists you should know by the 2nd purchase just ain't for you? Of course it beggars belief and like yourself, I have never received any response from any 'ratings only reviewer' who behaves in a similar fashion. We can't ban people for being petty vindictive idiots/feckless fanboys without any substance.
One crumb of comfort we can take is that such 'ratings only' reviews have negligible effect on the overall rating of an album. (assuming sufficient weighted reviews are available to tip the scales back to normality)

If I can determine from an official source the release date for an album and am satisfied that it cannot be purchased from another legit source e.g. at a gig or ordered as a pre-release special edition, I'll just delete ratings only reviews. This is becoming harder and harder to police effectively though as the recent Arena album The Seventh Degree of Separation showed (it was available from the record label's own website as a 'pre-release date' special edition - and if that ain't fleecing the fans credulity I can't think of a better exampleConfused)

If a written review appears before the official release date we strive to ensure that the reviewer indicates in the text the source of his review copy is a promo. And yes, this is a pain in the derričre and not always successful.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2011 at 04:57
Why can't you just delete all those one star ratrings?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2011 at 05:24
^ for the same reason I can't delete any of your rating only reviews (I can't prove you haven't listened to the albums)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Slartibartfast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2011 at 05:29
Why give the the guy the satisfaction of rattling his cage?  He's obviously on a mission to drive down ratings of stuff he doesn't like.  If he's really intent on it he will go out of his way to create alternate identities to put in more.  Ignoring is bliss.

Just on a side note, I have noticed that people that are heavy into metal tend to be very dismissive of everything that isn't.  "It's boring" etc. etc. LOL


Edited by Slartibartfast - November 30 2011 at 05:34
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2011 at 05:48
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

^ for the same reason I can't delete any of your rating only reviews (I can't prove you haven't listened to the albums)
But I haven't given i star 0r 5 stars to a complete body of work by one artist or genre. It's kind of obvious the difference. And why do you need proof? The evidence is overwhelming enough. Seems straightforward to me. If he doesn't answer why would he care or know anyway?

Why should someone carpet bomb PA with one star ratings for the hell of it and leave us with wringing hands deabating "proof" or his rights??

Bloody ludicrous.


Edited by Snow Dog - November 30 2011 at 05:51
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rdtprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2011 at 06:04
Why make this a huge scandal, i trust PA readers to make the difference between a 1 star rating with 3 or 4 ratings and a 1 star rating with 30 ratings. One is more relevant than the other. Same thing with reviews, i need to see more reviews of a album before making up my mind.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2011 at 06:21
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

^ for the same reason I can't delete any of your rating only reviews (I can't prove you haven't listened to the albums)
But I haven't given i star 0r 5 stars to a complete body of work by one artist or genre. It's kind of obvious the difference. And why do you need proof? The evidence is overwhelming enough. Seems straightforward to me. If he doesn't answer why would he care or know anyway?

Why should someone carpet bomb PA with one star ratings for the hell of it and leave us with wringing hands deabating "proof" or his rights??

Bloody ludicrous.


Just discovered something interesting about member methodprogression will update you in due course.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2011 at 06:22
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

^ for the same reason I can't delete any of your rating only reviews (I can't prove you haven't listened to the albums)
But I haven't given i star 0r 5 stars to a complete body of work by one artist or genre. It's kind of obvious the difference. And why do you need proof? The evidence is overwhelming enough. Seems straightforward to me. If he doesn't answer why would he care or know anyway?

Why should someone carpet bomb PA with one star ratings for the hell of it and leave us with wringing hands deabating "proof" or his rights??

Bloody ludicrous.


Just discovered something interesting about member methodprogression will update you in due course.



You have piqued my curiosity.Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AtomicCrimsonRush Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2011 at 06:48
Yeah, what gives - does he have an alter?

Theres a hidden agenda here for sure.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Neck Romancer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2011 at 12:52
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:


Just discovered something interesting about member methodprogression will update you in due course.



You have piqued my curiosity.Tongue

And mine too Shocked

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I have noticed that people that are heavy into metal tend to be very dismissive of everything that isn't.  "It's boring" etc. etc. LOL

Hah, true. Also, people who aren't into metal tend to be very dismissive of everything metal. "It's noise etc. etc. LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2011 at 07:37
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:



Just discovered something interesting about member methodprogression will update you in due course.




This guy had two accounts, both of which were designated as active. However, he only ever used one of them for posting so I've deleted the 'blank' profile. I've also sent him a PM advising that attempting ratings manipulation using rating only reviews is utterly futile and that future occurrences will lead to disciplinary action (though these types never respond to such missives) I've deleted all the one star reviews for Bass Communion and 6LA8 accordingly.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Triceratopsoil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2011 at 14:54
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:



Just on a side note, I have noticed that people that are heavy into metal tend to be very dismissive of everything that isn't.  "It's boring" etc. etc. LOL


Being heavy into metal, I disagree
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2011 at 14:59
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:



Just discovered something interesting about member methodprogression will update you in due course.




This guy had two accounts, both of which were designated as active. However, he only ever used one of them for posting so I've deleted the 'blank' profile. I've also sent him a PM advising that attempting ratings manipulation using rating only reviews is utterly futile and that future occurrences will lead to disciplinary action (though these types never respond to such missives) I've deleted all the one star reviews for Bass Communion and 6LA8 accordingly.


Well done.Clap
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote timothy leary Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2011 at 17:59

To me this is blatant abuse. How a person can join the site yesterday and this is what you get today.

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=38205&listreviews=rate&showall=true#reviews

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2011 at 18:04
a real prog fan thereLOL
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I know probably nothing can be done but it is good to let it be known it is very (insert cuss word)
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