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The Astonishing is a good call. For worst by DT...But anything by Celine Dion surely is the worst in the known universe...
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Torman Maxt's The Problem Of Pain: Part 1 springs to mind.
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But anything by Celine Dion surely is the worst in the known universe...


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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Renaissance - Timeline. Horrible production, terrible songs, totally disinterested Annie, and then THAT cover.

omg if you must pick a Renaissance album, don't pick this one.  There are at least 2 good songs.  The one to pick is "Songs from Renaissance Days"  Tongue

lemme see, I really think STREETMARK's "Nordland" is an unmitigated travesty, as is NEKTAR's"Magic is a Child".  There is also an obscurity called "Thirteen Tolls at Noon" by FLOATING STATE which is a total mess.  Most FLAMING BESS albums are good to very good but "Finisterre Sonne" is horrid.  Sadly, PETE BARDENS' last album was probably his worst, "The Art of Levitation".  It's not even good in a kitschy way
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

The Astonishing is a good call. For worst by DT...But anything by Celine Dion surely is the worst in the known universe...


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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Renaissance - Timeline. Horrible production, terrible songs, totally disinterested Annie, and then THAT cover.

omg if you must pick a Renaissance album, don't pick this one.  There are at least 2 good songs.  The one to pick is "Songs from Renaissance Days"  Tongue

lemme see, I really think STREETMARK's "Nordland" is an unmitigated travesty, as is NEKTAR's"Magic is a Child".  There is also an obscurity called "Thirteen Tolls at Noon" by FLOATING STATE which is a total mess.  Most FLAMING BESS albums are good to very good but "Finisterre Sonne" is horrid.  Sadly, PETE BARDENS' last album was probably his worst, "The Art of Levitation".  It's not even good in a kitschy way


Yeah, that one too but I left it out as it was just a compilation of leftovers (has worst written all over it) while Timeline was a regular studio release.
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^ Magic is a Child is surely one of the worst prog(related)albums I've heard. Timeline however is surely the weakest I've heard by Renaissance, but if you've never come across worse - consider yourself lucky. Of course its quite bad though. I can have a soft spot for horrible 80's production but interestingly the mix makes Annie's vocals appear weak and amateurish. Quite an achievement. 

But still try New Trolls Concerto Grosso n°2. and you'll long for it.

Anyway heres the worst song I ever heard - even if it was made for the noble cause of supporting "our troops" (not mine) during the gulf war lol



Voices That Care featured: Kenny G, Chevy Chase, Kevin Costner, Cindy Crawford, Ted Danson, Whoopi Goldberg, Wayne Gretzky, Magic Johnson, Alyssa Milano, Dudley Moore, Kurt Russell, Shakin' Stevens, Jean-Claude Van Damme, Celine Dion, Peter Cetera, Garth Brooks, Mike Tyson, Gunnar & Matthew Nelson, Michael Bolton, Will Smith... AMONG OTHERS. What could possibly go wrong?
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^ Magic is a Child is surely one of the worst prog(related)albums I've heard. Timeline however is surely the weakest I've heard by Renaissance, but if you've never come across worse - consider yourself lucky. Of course its quite bad though. I can have a soft spot for horrible 80's production but interestingly the mix makes Annie's vocals appear weak and amateurish. Quite an achievement. 

But still try New Trolls Concerto Grosso n°2. and you'll long for it.


Will do, but meanwhile, yes, yes!  Exactly.  It's not the worst I have heard per se, only worst in prog (and I have to check out some of the fine albums you and Ken have mentioned).  The worst I have heard EVER is Born Again.  Again, some kind of horrible sabotage to the vocals, which made Gillian sound worse than I believe he would have been.  The production itself was all wrong. I am betting the always-up-for-fisticuffs Iommi did have a rough time with Gillian and decided to sabotage the production to ease him out.  Dio alleged that he did that on Live Evil too.  I suspect Camp did likewise on Timeline too, except it had the opposite effect in this case.

Voices That Care doesn't seem to be particularly bad for the 80s.  I mean, this sort of sappy Live Aid special was very common; even the much vaunted We Are The World isn't much better than this.  It's exactly the kind of music I don't like at all but I can't fault it technically.  It's a competent production, just with vomit inducing quantities of cheese.


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Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

I think some of the worst albums ever were created during the Euro-House-period and the Boyband/girlband period:
 
Spice Girls, Backstreetboys, 2 Unlimited, MC Hammer, Take That, Cheeky Girls.
Although a lot of people seemed to like it, so was it bad if it's not my taste?

This thread looks like some people just want to show how much they dislike certain bands.
How is Rock Island by Jethro Tull or Roll the Bones by Rush, the worst album?
 
The first post was started because of a particular album by The Residents, wich in fact is really awful.
And now people throw in Pink Floyd, Genesis, Phil Collins and Neil Young in that same category?
 
Wow, just wow....
 
As creator of the thread, I didn't intend for it to get into the non-inspired business music of pop radio, I was hoping to keep it in the prog arena, but I still like to hear people's opinions whether I agree with them or not. 
 
Also, just because a certain album is a particular group's worst album doesn't mean it is the worst album ever.  Just because I think "Open Your Eyes" by Yes is their worst album, it doesn't mean it is THE worst album I've ever heard.  (However, "Heaven and Earth" is definitely one of the worst albums ever). 
 
And yes I noticed your review of "The Big Bubble" had one star next to it also.  This doesn't mean that The Residents didn't have any 5 star albums, because they do.  The Residents prove that you can have great Avant-prog/RIO albums and they can still be funny (just like Frank Zappa proves the same thing).  Many times the humor is in the music itself, not necessarily always the lyrics.  The Residents were really good at also proving that you can wear out that humor too, as in "The Big Bubble", and though it's funny at first, what is the value in an album that wears itself thin and becomes worthless after the first listen?  The value is only in the fact that it can be considered one of the worst albums I've ever heard.

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Now that you mention "Open you Eyes" from Yes, indeed that one is among the worse ones for me too, along with The Ladder, Big Generator, and I guess Tormato and Heaven and Earth are very close. But still, even though they have just about no song I really want to listen to again, if I put them on I guess I do will enjoy them well enough.
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Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

I think some of the worst albums ever were created during the Euro-House-period and the Boyband/girlband period:
 
Spice Girls, Backstreetboys, 2 Unlimited, MC Hammer, Take That, Cheeky Girls.
Although a lot of people seemed to like it, so was it bad if it's not my taste?

This thread looks like some people just want to show how much they dislike certain bands.
How is Rock Island by Jethro Tull or Roll the Bones by Rush, the worst album?
Its "What is the worst album you've heard" not "What is the worst album you haven't heard". People here has exposed themselves to the worst Jethro Tull and Rush-albums - but who the hell has ever bothered listening through a full Spice Girls, Backstreetboys, 2 Unlimited, MC Hammer, Take That or Cheeky Girls-album? I sure haven't which is why the most awful album I ever heard was one I was unwillingly listening to while eating at restaurants during the 90's. 

Btw: regarding: so was it bad if its not to my taste? Well yes but not just because it wasn't to your taste spesifically. The second hand market can often tell you something about the lasting qualities of any kind of art or craft. History throws the worst and most disposable music in the bargain (or garbage) bin. So IKEA (or worse) like eurohouse and boybands is cheap/worthless crap compared to the furniture and music that people keep for the rest of their lives... or other people are willing to pay you more than than its original price.
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Ehhhmmm, no offense but the worst album I've ever heard was from...

Pink Floyd!
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Tangerine Dream - Zeit (sorry again but I really hate very early TD)

Even if you hate early TD, Zeit can't be the worst thing they ever did. For that, look at one of any number of albums they issued in the '90s! (I always talk about TD in the past tense now because, like Yes, there are no original members).
 

yep those 90's albums were a bit pointless but I would still be prepared to listen to them again. Goblins Club is okay.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^ Magic is a Child is surely one of the worst prog(related)albums I've heard.
Yeah, I remember a friend having me sit down and listen to it. The magic was gone, as was Roye Albrighton, replaced by some guy named Dave Nelson who had no business stepping into Roye's shoes. He only lasted one album before Roye was lured back into the fold.
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Sticking to bands I like 

Eloy - Ra (there are many 80's horrors in general and this is one of them!)
I actually like Ra in spite of its glaring issues, because most of the songs are actually good.  Destination, on the other hand, should have been better given the somewhat better production and addition of flutes, but it doesn't have a single good song.    Probably Eloy's worst album, although their latest gives it a run for the money
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Torman Maxt's The Problem Of Pain: Part 1 springs to mind.

hahah.. honestly it was the first album to jump to mind. Granted we heard many a stinker over the years as collabs.. but that one sort of did become infamous.

However one can excuse lack of talent.. it is music man... so I went for worst album by a band that actually should have done better... or simply known it was time to hang it up and call it quits before they made a mockery of themselves and became a fixture of MTV and nothing more than a cheap and foul sounding nostalgia act.. oh yeah.. and making an album simply to settle a personal score.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Torman Maxt's The Problem Of Pain: Part 1 springs to mind.

hahah.. honestly it was the first album to jump to mind. Granted we heard many a stinker over the years as collabs.. but that one sort of did become infamous.

However one can excuse lack of talent.. it is music man... so I went for worst album by a band that actually should have done better... or simply known it was time to hang it up and call it quits before they made a mockery of themselves and became a fixture of MTV and nothing more than a cheap and foul sounding nostalgia act.. oh yeah.. and making an album simply to settle a personal score.

Which is why when Floyd fans call AMLOR and DB among their best albums, I don't know quite what to make of it.  Yeah, each to his own I suppose but the albums were made with ill will and ultimately were mediocre at worst and lacking originality and derivative of their older work at best.  Lived up to Waters' pretty fair forgery summing up of it. In an artistic sense, Waters was only vindicated for wanting to break up the band because though they enjoyed commercial success with these albums and the gigantic, overproduced drek tours, they went against everything the band once stood for.  It's like Floyd turning into Live Aid U2, yuck yucky yuck. No passion, except whenever Gilmour felt the need to vent against Waters.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Torman Maxt's The Problem Of Pain: Part 1 springs to mind.

hahah.. honestly it was the first album to jump to mind. Granted we heard many a stinker over the years as collabs.. but that one sort of did become infamous.

However one can excuse lack of talent.. it is music man... so I went for worst album by a band that actually should have done better... or simply known it was time to hang it up and call it quits before they made a mockery of themselves and became a fixture of MTV and nothing more than a cheap and foul sounding nostalgia act.. oh yeah.. and making an album simply to settle a personal score.

Which is why when Floyd fans call AMLOR and DB among their best albums, I don't know quite what to make of it.  Yeah, each to his own I suppose but the albums were made with ill will and ultimately were mediocre at worst and lacking originality and derivative of their older work at best.  Lived up to Waters' pretty fair forgery summing up of it. In an artistic sense, Waters was only vindicated for wanting to break up the band because though they enjoyed commercial success with these albums and the gigantic, overproduced drek tours, they went against everything the band once stood for.  It's like Floyd turning into Live Aid U2, yuck yucky yuck. No passion, except whenever Gilmour felt the need to vent against Waters.


Ok, I've heard Torman for the first time since the big collab upheaval against M@X when he tried to force that "thing" upon us. It's not good for sure, but to say it's even close to the worst is ridiculous: there are tons of much more offensive progmetal than them.

As for APermanentLOR and TDB, I don't think there are serious Floyd fans that would call them "the best Floyd albums" unless they're fuming about Waters. Yes both are weak : LOR sounds like a subpar solo Gilmour album that was cooked up in a hurry to claim Floyd was still alive, rsspite what Roger was saying. And TDB was quite disappointing , because it wasn't a rushed job and did really feature Wright as a full member
There is only one very good Post-Waters Floyd track: the excellent High Hopes (bloody overplayed, though), the rest , when not busy aping the old 70's Floyd, is close to dreck
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Torman Maxt's The Problem Of Pain: Part 1 springs to mind.

hahah.. honestly it was the first album to jump to mind. Granted we heard many a stinker over the years as collabs.. but that one sort of did become infamous.

However one can excuse lack of talent.. it is music man... so I went for worst album by a band that actually should have done better... or simply known it was time to hang it up and call it quits before they made a mockery of themselves and became a fixture of MTV and nothing more than a cheap and foul sounding nostalgia act.. oh yeah.. and making an album simply to settle a personal score.

Which is why when Floyd fans call AMLOR and DB among their best albums, I don't know quite what to make of it.  Yeah, each to his own I suppose but the albums were made with ill will and ultimately were mediocre at worst and lacking originality and derivative of their older work at best.  Lived up to Waters' pretty fair forgery summing up of it. In an artistic sense, Waters was only vindicated for wanting to break up the band because though they enjoyed commercial success with these albums and the gigantic, overproduced drek tours, they went against everything the band once stood for.  It's like Floyd turning into Live Aid U2, yuck yucky yuck. No passion, except whenever Gilmour felt the need to vent against Waters.


Ok, I've heard Torman for the first time since the big collab upheaval against M@X when he tried to force that "thing" upon us. It's not good for sure, but to say it's even close to the worst is ridiculous: there are tons of much more offensive progmetal than them.

As for APermanentLOR and TDB, I don't think there are serious Floyd fans that would call them "the best Floyd albums" unless they're fuming about Waters. Yes both are weak : LOR sounds like a subpar solo Gilmour album that was cooked up in a hurry to claim Floyd was still alive, rsspite what Roger was saying. And TDB was quite disappointing , because it wasn't a rushed job and did really feature Wright as a full member
There is only one very good Post-Waters Floyd track: the excellent High Hopes (bloody overplayed, though), the rest , when not busy aping the old 70's Floyd, is close to dreck



Oh, trust me, there are.  Whether they are actually serious or not may be up for debate Wink but at least self-serious if that is the correct expression. When I once dissed those albums, they told me I don't have the maturity to see their worth.  Yeah, well, when I see a turd, I call turd.  Too bad if my turd is sometimes somebody else's pie cake.
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